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    Annastefka
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    Well, I wanted to let everyone know that now over 1000 young Americans have died in Iraq. Only God knows how non-Americans have been killed in Iraq. These young Americans ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR MY FREEDOM, come on WAKE UP AMERICA !

    Most of the educated world knows what is going on, this is a resource war. George Bush wants his hands on the last bit of "Black Gold"

    Click here please: http://lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Introduction.html

    Thanks.

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    Aatos
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    I think i read somewhere that there were atleast 13 000 non-american soldiers dead.

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    maxini
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    So, the US election day is here shortly and for some unintelligible reason it looks like a smug self-righteous clown driven by religious and ideological fanatism has a good chance of having it go his way again. Well, the world is full of politicians that are smug self-righteous clowns, but as this particular clown is claiming that "I believe It is our duty to lead the world", thereby making him the self-proclaimed leader of this planet – which just so happens to be my planet too – I feel it is my duty to express my utmost disgust at the thought of him leading anything as much as my dirty underwear to the washing machine.

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    crazycloud
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    it’s a power thing… It’s so halliburtun can become its own autonomous corperation, and at the same time the republifascists and democraps can make a pretty penny off of their defense based stock portfolios, and what better way then to control the arab population and let Iran know who’s boss at the same time… I’m sure if you do the research Halliburtun also makes the bulluts as well as the toilet seats and the oil wells… It’s a McMocracy children lets all gather round the tomb of the unknown soldier and pretend we care.. ahhhhhh breath in the opollution really deep./

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    Rich
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    All I can Say is people of America We need to unite, Join me and oppose this manchild with everything you can dish out, we must unite and stand tall and vote

    everyone must vote. IT IS NEEDED,

    IT MUST BE DONE

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    antipop
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    G.W. Bush is the anti-christ, A vote for this wanker is a waste of ink!

    J. Haward is a puppet who’s strings are being pulled by the Anti-christ!

    Plzzz do not vote 4 any of these wankers!

    Thanks Trav :x

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    Aatos
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    Today i read in the news that the law of not having big guns(machineguns?) for private people has been turned off. NRA is happy about it and NRA is sponsoring G. W. Bushs re-election campaign with 20 000 00$… The American congress(that is full of republicans, by the way..) didn’t research that deal before making the decision.
    Interesting, interesting… Freedom, justice and liberty!!

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    Annastefka
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    My husband said to me "All wars are resource wars, Dummy"

    I didn’t know that, I guess if I spent more time playing "War Craft" type of games.

    :roll:

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    Rich
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    What are we going to do about this mess

    what can we do

    hey

    ANa
    did you start up that
    CHRISTIANS FOR KERRY slogan yet

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    crazycloud
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    CHRISTIANS FOR THE APOCYLYPSE UNITE!!!!!

    KILL ALL NON BELIEVERS!!!

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    Annastefka
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    "Rich" wrote:
    did you start up that
    CHRISTIANS FOR KERRY slogan yet

    Fortunatly, here
    in Athens we have a nice Friends or "Quaker" group, the Friends are are followers of Christ and are anti-war.
    Catholics are anti-war (as it is not pro-life, causes death etc.)
    some other anglo christian churches are also outspoken anti-war like the 7th day adventist, they as you may know are also vegetarian. So as Maxini said "Bush is driven by religion" I have to disagree, he has many who call themselves followers of Christ but who still fall into the old Paradigm of "Fear" Christ tried to show the way of no fear. Look at his death on the cross. If you are a fear based person then you will be wanting to buy an assult weapon to protect your family from the Arabs. Which is where many Americans have their "mind set" A good test for a true Christian is to see if they are pro-war, one can’t be pro-war and also pro-Christ, it just doesn’t work. Bush can screw with Christian ideas to warp his position, like gay marriage, I am against gay-marriage, I am not against anything gay, I mean, I have a few great moments with other women myself :oops: , but we don’t call this union a marriage, if we need laws to protect gay couples with mutal real estate holdings or life insurance than we need those kinds of law, but don’t call this a marriage. It is not only many Christians who are dim-witted, it is just as many other Americans who have never sat down, turned inward and prayed. We all need to enlighten ourselves, many people on this planet are just stupid, I am 1/2 stupid so I speak from experience. Hey and while Kerry is cool, he’s no knockout, but money will rule if we don’t nip this in the bud.
    P.S. I had to edit. If you need futher proof of the stupidity of human kind just look at Sandanistas post above this one. Or you could check out this news piece from a baseball game last night.

    Texas Rangers-Oakland game turns ugly when player hurls chair at fans

    By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer
    September 14, 2004

    AP – Sep 14, 2:07 am EDT
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    OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — Texas reliever Frank Francisco threw a chair into the right field box seats, hitting two spectators in the head Monday night, as Oakland Athletics fans taunted the visitors after a two-out, top-of-the-ninth homer tied the game.

    One of the fans, an unidentified woman, was bloodied and her nose was broken.

    Dude, get real, the fans were taunting him, that is so stupid, if you can’t handle life then go lay on the couch and pray and ask for help.
    You can’t just go out and break noses. :cry:

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    maxini
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    I said driven by religious fanatism and I meant it seriously. I remember seeing some tv documentary about Bush from the time before the 2000 election when he was up against Al Gore. In an interview made while he was the governor of Texas, the issue of reviewing death sentences came up and the interviewer asked Bush whether he, after signing a death warrent, ever had any doubts that he had made the right decision . Bush reply was that once his decision was made, he trusted that God had helped him make the right one and thus he never needed to lose any sleep over it.

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    Annastefka
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    "maxini" wrote:
    I said driven by religious fanatism and I meant it seriously..

    I have to disagree again but I love a good debate and am willing to "eat crow" when need be but that said…

    I am not sure but I think you mean fanaticism, and if George was a religious fanatic then he would not have been elected. Religious fanatics are not trusted by most Americans. Again, he uses religion, his own brand, so that he appears to be a spiritual person.
    Any true follower of Christ would need to be against the death penalty. What part of Thou shall not kill does he not understand?

    Most Americans are not spiritual people, they practice "fast food spirituality" Go to church for one hour on Sunday, throw a little money in the basket, let others see them doing it then go home to their televisions and other pleasures.
    If you study any kind of power tripping people many of them have said that "God" is guideing them. Only the stupid would refuse to question that. I ask God for guidance each day before I walk away from my bed, God has never told me it would be a good idea to put someone to death.

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    Robert
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    no matter how you view "true christians," which I really think lies in the eye of the beholder, since there’s so many different followings in christianity, there’s no denying that there’s a powerfull lobby of republican christians that influences the politics of Bush/the Bush administration.

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    Annastefka
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    "Robert" wrote:
    since there’s so many different followings in christianity, there’s no denying that there’s a powerfull lobby of republican christians that influences the politics of Bush/the Bush administration.

    Robert there are many different followers but the followings remain the same and yes, there is no denying that there is a powerful lobby of republican Christians, at least that is what they call themselves, my sister is one of them, but the common link between them is money, not Christ. You know what I mean?
    We have many christian groups who are backing Kerry, as I said before, many Catholics, Friends, 7th day adventist, Lutherens, Presbyterians and of course Unitarians (not the Mooneys BTW) are for the most part pro-Kerry. The Republican Christian lobby is powerful because of money not because of a stand on religion.

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