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  • #45092

    malcom
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    Okay, I’m not in the best of conditions right now, but I’ll try to avoid preachiness.

    I went to a party on Saturday, well to be honest I helped crash a party, but it was to big for anybody to notice. I dunno why I feel compelled to write about this, millions go to partys every day, it isn’t a big deal. But drugs really get me depressed, and alchohol is the most depressing. For those straight-edge types like myself, drunk people are only fun for a very short amount of time before the joke wears off.

    Adding to the fun was the fact that I was told MINIMUM four times that I looked "emo." Fucking great. So Buddy Holly glasses and converse makes one "emo." I know lables don’t matter much, but do you really want to be associated with the stupidest label ever concieved?

    Trivia question: Acoording to the AMG, what do Modest Mouse, At The Drive-In, Weezer, and Dasboard Confessionals all have in common?

    Answer: They’re all "emo."

    I suppose it sounds like I had an absolutely miserable time. But I had a clue that I was walking into and "excuse to get drunk" party. I didn’t know that one of my friends would enter "sulk mode," requiring some babysitting, and that the crowd would consist primarily of "punks." I also didn’t know that I’d be home at 2:00. I succeeded in not spending saturday night at home watching the tele.
    And best of all, I possibly secured myself a drummer for my protoband. <img>

    And finally, to answer some questions received in the previous Malcom Report:

    An "anonomous source" tipped Amanda off shortley before she left for O-re-gon, I have my suspisions but they directly contrast with the Rumour Mill. We had a few email discussions, which I don’t feel privey with sharing. And now I’m off women for two weeks or until I meet another most intelligent, talented, sweet natured, beautiful girl in the world. <img> <img>

    #70842

    rosa
    Participant

    I’m not ‘straight edge’ or ’emo’, but I definitely hate babysitting drunk people. It’s hard, and sad. Here’s to hoping your friends shape up. Or that you find friends that are more fun <img>

    take care,
    rosa

    #70843

    Javro
    Moderator

    Please explain to a simple Englishman what emo is? Rosa – the way to avoid babysitting drunk people is to be a drunk yourself. No one would ever dream of asking me to "look after" someone or something, so now, even when I am not drunk, I pretend to be, et voila – no responsibilities! Works every time.

    But drunk punks?? Heavens.

    Love your signatures Malk.

    Ben

    #70844

    SG
    Participant

    Javro-emo used to be defined as screaming or near screaming singers with post punk chords which are`nt that different then punk chords.Early Afghan Whigs could be called emo,songs like Big Top Halloween or Southpaw could be emo for some.It`s just another dumb name that will fall out of fashion soon the same way the term grunge did.

    #70845

    andyfest
    Participant

    Yeah, I think Emo is the most pathetic excuse to try to categorize a type of music in years. I’ve always heard that Jimmy Eat World was emo and the Get Up Kids. I love both bands but to me they’re just power-pop. I’ve heard emo defined as "emotional rock". I guess that puts anyone who has ever written a love song in that category. As for drunk people, I hate being around them for the most part. More than that, I hate being one of them but every now and then I have one drink too many.

    #70846

    malcom
    Participant

    This is what the AMG has to say:

    Emo
    genre: Rock
    Originally an arty outgrowth of hardcore punk, emo became an important force in underground rock by the late ’90s, appealing to modern-day punks and indie-rockers alike. Some emo leans toward the progressive side, full of complex guitar work, unorthodox song structures, arty noise, and extreme dynamic shifts; some emo is much closer to punk-pop, though it’s a bit more intricate. Emo lyrics are deeply personal, usually either free-associative poetry or intimate confessionals. Though it’s far less macho, emo is a direct descendant of hardcore’s preoccupations with authenticity and anti-commercialism; it grew out of the conviction that commercially oriented music was too artificial and calculated to express any genuine emotion. Because the emo ideal is authentic, deeply felt emotion that defies rational analysis, the style can be prone to excess in its quest for ever-bigger peaks and releases. But at its best, emo has a sweeping power that manages to be visceral, challenging, and intimate all at once. The groundwork for emo was laid by Hüsker Dü’s 1984 landmark Zen Arcade, which made it possible for hardcore bands to tackle more personal subject matter and write more tuneful and technically demanding songs. Emo emerged in Washington, D.C. not long after, amidst the remnants of the hardcore scene that had produced Minor Threat and Bad Brains. The term "emo" (sometimes lengthened to "emocore") was initially used to describe hardcore bands who favored expressive vocals over the typical barking rants; the first true emo band was Rites of Spring, followed by ex-Minor Threat singer Ian MacKaye’s short-lived Embrace. MacKaye’s Dischord label became the center for D.C.’s growing emo scene, releasing work by Rites of Spring, Dag Nasty, Nation of Ulysses, and MacKaye’s collaboration with members of Rites of Spring, Fugazi. Fugazi became the definitive early emo band, crossing over to alternative rock listeners and getting press for their uncompromisingly anti-commercial attitudes. Aside from the Dischord stable, most early emo was deeply underground, recorded by extremely short-lived bands and released on vinyl in small quantities by small labels; some vocalists literally wept onstage during song climaxes, earning derision from hardcore purists. Fugazi notwithstanding, emo didn’t really break out of obscurity until the mid-’90s emergence of Sunny Day Real Estate, whose early work defined the style in the minds of many. Tempering Fugazi’s gnarled guitar webs with Seattle grunge, straight-up prog-rock, and crooned vocals, SDRE launched a thousand imitators who connected with their dramatic melodies and introspective mysticism. Some of this new generation connected equally with the wry, geeky introspection and catchy punk-pop of Weezer’s Pinkerton album. While several artists continued to build on Fugazi’s innovations (including Quicksand and Drive Like Jehu), most ’90s emo bands borrowed from some combination of Fugazi, Sunny Day Real Estate, and Weezer. Groups like the Promise Ring, the Get Up Kids, Braid, Texas Is the Reason, Jimmy Eat World, Joan of Arc, and Jets to Brazil earned substantial followings in the indie-rock world, making emo one of the more popular underground rock styles at the turn of the millennium.
    Related Styles: Hardcore Punk Grunge Indie Rock Punk-Pop Math Rock Queercore Straight-Edge

    Also check out this website for a tounge-in-cheek description (and the source of my signature). Also noteworthy is this months Seventeen magazine, which has an-unintentionally-hilarious article on ’emo’

    #70847

    buckingham rabbit
    Participant

    The best way to deal with drunk people is to be drunk yourself. Malcolm, if you just got wasted once in a while you might feel better.

    #70848

    Long Distance Drunk
    Participant

    Luckily I’m a pretty functional drunk, as are most of my friends. Personally, I laugh at anyone that uses the term "emo" especially say someone looks that way. I get drunk at a "punk" bar fairly often and it rules. Jukebox with 45’s of American Jesus and He’s a Whore, plus $1.50 22 ounce drafts of Michael Shea’s. If I were you, I’d make it clear to your friends on your way out that you will not drunk-sit them. Most people will feel ya. But hey, those are the places where bands seem to be formed, so I wouldn’t stop going out. You don’t have to drink, offering girls rides is a good way to start conversations. <img>

    #70849

    rosa
    Participant

    *laughing*

    Here ya go, Malky; check out the description:

    Bug

    xo,
    R

    #70850

    malcom
    Participant

    Oh my golly <img>

    #70851

    sarsaparilly
    Participant

    malcontent, you know i have to add my 2 cents, if only because your reports are always intrigueing enough to pull me out of my usual lurks. so i humbly suggest this, that you think about trying mostly everything at least once (must i add provisions?yes, that it does not hurt you or someone else, unless previously agreed upon) but i think if you do ANYthing to an extreme, guarandamnteed it ain’t good for you. see, so malkie, take chances and have fun and stop being so andy warhol ’bout everything, b’lieve me i only advise this cuz so far i think it is workin’, noting from experience i am lurking less and adventuring more.

    #70852

    andyfest
    Participant

    Thanks for the description of Emo. That is the first time I’ve heard decent explination of the genre. To relate this topic to this site, would Dino/J be considered "emo"?

    #70853

    SG
    Participant

    I don`t think Dino is emo(Emosaur Jr <img> <img> )
    like I said it`s just like the word grunge,just words music critics come up with <img>
    Welcome to the boards Andyfest <img>

    <small>[ 07-30-2002, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Salamiguy ]</small>

    #70854

    andyfest
    Participant

    Thanks for the welcome. I agree, we should prevent putting our beloved Dinosaur Jr. in the emo category. They belong in a category all their own. I’m a little new to this, how do you get those crazy smilely faces in your posts?

    #70855

    malcom
    Participant

    you either click on the "reply" button, instead of using quick reply, or you type the smilies as you would in a chat room. If you click on the "reply" button and have UBB code enabled, you will find the options below the typing window thingy under "instant graemlins". This is also where you can add links, pictures, etc.

    And no, Dinosaur isn’t emo. Emo isn’t even Emo.

    <small>[ 07-30-2002, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Malcomtent ]</small>

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