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  • #69460

    OriginalPosterLost
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    That’s because bands with female lead singers suck.


    #69461

    OriginalPosterLost
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    Right Ewhite 5, whereas U2 kick ass or what? Such a refined taste.[img]http://www.freakscene.net/ubb/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
    gruss
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    if you don’t find what you are looking for, ask for it

    <FONT>This message has been edited by dimpfelmoser on January 17, 2001 at 07:52 AM</font>

    #69462

    OriginalPosterLost
    Participant

    "NO NO NO"- allison, can u please tell Aretha to stop kicking my behind cause its kinda getten Blue now![img]http://www.freakscene.net/ubb/smilies/whipa.gif[/img]
    lter trav [img]http://www.freakscene.net/ubb/smilies/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]imp:


    http://www.thelivingend.50megs.com

    <FONT>This message has been edited by westendriot-trav on January 18, 2001 at 12:00 AM</font>

    #69463

    AGAP
    Participant

    Hey,

    I don’t know it looks like your kinda enjoying it…..well ok if you insist.

    Allison

    ps Couldn’t get in touch with Deniz Tek and Chris Bailey so look out. Deniz Tek played in melbourne before christmas, read some reviews sounded like it was a pretty great show. Wickedly cool guitar player, played on tons of classic albumns and also found the time to become and surgeon & a lawyer…wow.


    <FONT>This message has been edited by bates on January 18, 2001 at 01:27 AM</font>

    #69464

    SG
    Participant

    I came across this and thought I add to it.When I went through the memberlist there was`nt too many female singers named.I did`nt get into too many female singers until I started listening to punk/indie stuff,even when I listened to jazz/blues I was`nt that much into female singers,some of them but not many.
    Here`s some of my fav female singers:
    Kim Deal(Pixies/Breeders)-There`s a new Breeders album coming out soon,with a new lineup;featuring Kim with 2 guys from Fear and a guy from 22 Jacks.
    Kim Gordon
    Belinda Butcher(MBV)
    Tayna Donnely(Throwing Muses/Breeders/Belly)
    Kristin Hersh
    Thalia Zedek(Come)
    Rebecca Gates(Spinanes)
    Georgia Hubley(Yo La Tengo)
    Hope Sandoval(Mazzy Star)
    Juliana Hatfield
    Marcy Mays(Scrawl)(check out the Afghan Whigs song `My Curse` from their "Gentlemen"album,Marcy guests on this tune and does a great performance)
    Carol Van Dijk(Bettie Serveert)(originally a canadian,from British Columbia I think.)
    Corin Tucker and Carrie Brownstein(Sleater Kinney)(Corin sings like she going to have a brain hemmorage or something,very intense singer;Carrie is a good singer as well.)
    Liz Fraser(Cocteau Twins)(I don`t know what the hell she`s singing about but who cares!Amazing voice.)
    Caroline Finch(Linoelum)(What ever happened to her or that band?Does anybody know?)
    Carla Bozalich(Geraldine Fibbers)(check out `Dragon Lady` from their "Lost Somewhere…" album;I always get a kick out of it.)
    Mary Lou Lord(anyone who quotes J is cool,she quoted `Freak Scene` in her song `Western Union Desperate`.)
    Harriet Wheeler(Sundays)
    Fontaine Toups(Versus)(great lead and backup singer)
    PJ Harvey
    Raincoats(the women in the Raincoats were bizzare singers but very cool,Kurt Cobain loved them.)
    Janet Beveridge Bean(Eleventh Dream Day/Freakwater)(does mostly backing vocals,love her voice.)
    Jane(don`t know her last name;Perfume Tree)(their early stuff was guitars,voice and dance beats;I usually don`t like stuff like this,but perfume tree are cool,their more recent stuff is more electronic;one critic called them"Sarah Maclachlan meets the Orb")
    Alison Shaw(Cranes)(If you thought Juliana has a baby doll voice,check out Alison;very sweet singer.)
    Linda Hopper(Magnapop)(Maganaop has been called "Debbie Harry meets Husker Du".)
    Isobel Campbell(Belle And Sebastian/Gentle Waves)
    Mary Weiss(Shangri-La`s)(She was the best singer in the Shangri-La`s,sang lead vocals on a lot of their tunes including`Leader Of The Pack`;Johnny Thunders was a fan,and I suspect the Ramones were too,being from Queens like the Ramones.)
    Etta James(good call Allison for calling her cool,I Like her better than Aretha;She never got the promotion to be a well known queen of soul,always got stuck with a blues singer label,she `s definitely a soul singer or even jazz singer when she wants to do that,like the Billie Holliday tribute she did.I think she also sang with the Rolling Stones on the song`Gimme Shelter`;You can hear Mick say;`C`mon Etta` or something like that before she sings in the middle of that tune.)
    Billie Holliday(one of my fav jazz singers)
    Anita O`day(another fav jazz singer,still alive too;she`s like 82 now;I don`t think she sings too often anymore.Check out any of her 50`s and 60`s records if you like jazz singers.)
    Bessie Smith(Best blues singer ever,she was around in the 20`s and early 30`s,powerful voice and powerful woman,there`s stories of her throwing men threw windows!and ripping up the curtains of the stage where she performed at.)
    Astrud Gilberto(Brazilian singer who can so sing!Jebus likes her too and so do I.)
    Julie London(good lounge singer in the 50`s and 60`s and actress,she was in the TV show "Emergency" in the 70`s,played a nurse.)

    I think I mentioned enough.

    #69465

    everyonelovesjaron
    Participant

    The Cranberries… I like them alot. Especially their early work.

    Um… I bought Alanis Morrisette’s first album, oooh, and Hole’s first one too (and Celebrity Skin, but that was because Corgan wrote it).

    Yeah, I guess I don’t like many female singers.

    #69466

    Javro
    Moderator

    What happened to Dimpf anyway?? Ain’t heard from you for a while girlfriend.

    Your daily rows with our kid Trav used to brighten my every morn.

    #69467

    Nettiebelle
    Participant

    OK, One Female that Rocks: Ani Difranco, She rocks. The lyrics, the voice, her guitar playing, everything. AWESOME!!!! also, Tori Amos, Portishead, Indigo Girls, Holly Mcnarland, Sara McLachlan, hooverphonic, Bic Runga, Hole, Dar Williams, i could go on and on.
    ok, just thought i would write my small insignificant piece!!!!!! [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img]

    #69468

    dimpfelmoser
    Participant

    It´s so nice to see that someone resurrected my first ever posting that I wrote more than eight months ago. See, that´s what I like so much about this BB. Someone is almost always taking an interest. Despite the fact, that I really can´t say that Dinosaur Jr. is my absolute favorite of all time, I like coming back here and get some new cultural references, gossip and mindless fandom on the rampage. Can you ask for more?!
    gruss
    d

    #69469

    SG
    Participant

    I`ll add a few more:

    Catherine Irwin(Freakwater)
    Exene Cervenka(X)
    Lucinda Williams
    Iris DeMent
    Victoria Williams
    Helen Merrill
    Peggy Lee
    Ella Fitzgerald
    Dinah Washington
    Sarah Vaughan

    #69470

    buckingham rabbit
    Participant

    maybe these haven’t been mentioned:

    heavenly
    beat happening
    damon and naomi
    magnetic fields
    mates of state (an sf band, check them out)
    ivy

    on a guilty pleasure level, though i dont really feel guilty or embarrassed about it, i have a petula clark and a dusty springfield greatest hits album.

    #69471

    Halfman
    Participant

    I vote fer Laura Nyro, Mary Lou Lord, Sleater-Kinney, Victoria Williams, Go-Go’s, X, Betty White, Juliana Hatfield, Joni Mitchell and Anissa Romero, formerly of Sky Cries Mary. Also forgot Gretchen, formerly of Mary’s Danish.

    [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Half-Man ]</p>

    #69472

    SG
    Participant

    BR-Mates Of State are cool,I was talking to Maxini about them awhile ago.Ivy`s good,Naomi never sang enough in Galaxie 500,I have`nt heard alot of Damon And Naomi,hope she sings more in it.

    #69473

    Halfman
    Participant

    This too is courtesy of Kill Rock Stars:

    >>> Decomposition exposé: Sharon Cheslow interviewed by Tobi Vail,
    >>>February 2002

    Sharon Cheslow has been a major feminist force in US underground
    culture for 20 plus years now. She had a pivotal role in the male
    dominated DC punk scene playing in Chalk Circle DC’s first all girl
    punk band (who formed after she was inspired by seeing bands like
    Delta 5 and the MoDettes) and she later co-edited Banned in DC with
    Cynthia Connelly and Leslie Clague which was one of the first books
    to document any US hardcore scene. In the early 90’s she played a big
    role in starting the riot grrl movement working with members of
    Bikini Kill and Bratmobile and playing in bands with Kathleen Hanna
    and Tim Green of Nation of Ulysses/the fucking Champs. She has done a
    fanzine called Interrobang for over ten years now which you can now
    check out online and continues to play, push the boundaries, and
    inspire with her projects. She is currently doing experimental
    composition and sound installations in SF. She also has a really
    interesting website (which documents the History of Women in Punk and
    much more) and label called DECOMPOSITION:

    >1. Your label is interesting to me because it is so small and seems
    >to document stuff done by your friends and you seem to make it work,
    >which I think is a hard thing to do. I was wondering why you started
    >Decomposition and if part of your label idea was to keep it small or
    >if that is just the way it’s turned out.

    A combination of both. My inspiration was small underground presses
    of the 60s and independent punk labels of the 70s, that were more
    about quality than quantity. I’ve also always gravitated towards
    mass produced, inexpensive or free, aesthetically strong, politically
    poignant cultural artifacts. So when I started Decomposition I had
    all that in mind. But on a practical level, I really just started
    the label as a way to document what had been going on in DC in 1991,
    by distributing the A Wonderful Treat cassette and releasing the
    Suture 7", and just kept going from there.

    >2. You are one of the few label owners that I know of in the history
    >of the world who is female. Plenty of women work at labels, but
    >barely any own one! Do you have any theories about this? I know this
    >is something you are fully aware of…

    Really? I wasn’t aware of this. Now you’ve got me interested in
    doing some research! The only theory I can think of off the top of
    my head is that most females aren’t encouraged to become
    knowledgeable about music, so they don’t develop a love of it like
    many of their male friends. I think also the technical process of
    releasing music can be intimidating for many girls brought up in a
    society that keeps girls technophobic, which is unfortunate.
    Especially because it’s not that difficult to understand. I learned
    a lot about the technical side of music when I was very young –
    everything from recording and editing to production. My father had a
    reel to reel tape recorder which I used, and I liked to read his
    audio magazines. It was curiosity on my part – asking myself how
    does sound get from a voice or instrument onto magnetic tape and then
    onto vinyl in a way that the ear can pick out all the different parts
    of an arrangement. I was fascinated by the process. I started
    buying records when I was ten. So I developed a love of music and
    records early on, and became interested in how a label worked. This
    lead to volunteering for Skip Groff’s label Limp Records, which was
    one of the first DC punk labels, when I was in high school. He ran
    the label out of his record store Yesterday & Today, and then he
    hired me to work there, so I learned a lot about small independent
    labels from that experience. There have been studies showing that
    when girls aren’t encouraged to excel in math and science as
    teenagers their self esteem plummets. There are lots of other
    reasons why girls’ esteem plummets around that age, but I think
    encouraging girls to become interested in the technical side of music
    and art would be one great way to deal with this.

    >3. How did being a part of the early DC punk scene effect the work
    >you are doing now as an artist and label person?

    It’s had a tremendous effect. I was very influenced by the whole
    do-it-yourself attitude, so I probably wouldn’t do things on my own
    if it weren’t for that. Also, I was inspired by HR of the Bad Brains
    talking about "positive mental attitude". When I first began hanging
    out with Henry we talked a lot about PMA. The whole idea was to take
    control of your own life so that society and other negative
    experiences don’t get you down. So in regards to creativity, it
    meant doing things on your own terms. I also learned about the
    positive aspects of being part of a tight-knit group of creative
    people who supported one another, and this became my model for
    friendship and community.

    >4. Can you talk a little about your favorite Decomposition releases?

    I really don’t have any favorites, because I’ve enjoyed the process
    of putting each one out and seeing what happens once it’s out of my
    hands.

    >5. How do you distribute your stuff?

    Mostly through mailorder. I like the direct contact. Early on I had
    the help of other distributors, such as KRS, Dischord, K, Cargo,
    Ajax, Simple Machines, Scratch, and Revolver. A lot of people think
    there’s no way to have your music heard without the help of larger
    distributors, but now people can release mp3s which is great. I’d
    like to have more digital audio on the Decomposition website. The
    only thing I don’t like about mp3s is that they’re purely digital
    information and I like the artwork that goes along with a music
    release. I guess one way around this is to have people download
    digital images to go along with the audio files.

    >6. How do you keep from losing money?

    Let’s see, maybe a better question would be "what is more important
    than making money?" and I’d answer doing what I love, living simply,
    helping friends get recognition for their work, and trying to pay
    people when I can…which right now means focusing on distribution.
    I’m trying to come up with ways to get around the whole monetary
    system, like by publishing the last issue of Interrobang?!, which is
    an anthology available online as a free Acrobat pdf. I was able to
    do it because I relied on voluntary contributions.

    >7. What underground activity excites you in the year 2002?

    The application of the discovery of the human genome sequence into
    music and art. Street protests & musicians for peace. The use of
    MIT Media Lab’s recently invented audio spotlight. Kinetic sound
    sculptures. Lady robot performance art. Real time digital video
    processing. Bands playing on the floor instead of the stage.

    >8. What are your future plans for Decomposition?

    To follow my inspiration. The most recent news is on the website at
    http://www.mindspring.com/~acheslow/AuntMary/decomp.html.

    >9. Do you see what you are doing as being political?

    Yes. Being political, to me, encompasses different aspects of life,
    such as personal, social, economic, and ideological. I’m interested
    in breaking down the boundaries between art and life, so what I do
    usually deals with at least one of these various political aspects.
    I’m most interested in the connection among all of them, but that’s a
    very difficult thing to get across. I think anytime someone is able
    to make choices about how they exist in society in relation to
    others, it’s a political act, and these choices – consciously or not
    – make up a person’s political values. One thing I think is
    important, especially for women, is to document creativity as a form
    of cultural resistance.

    >10. What bands are you listening to these days?

    Almost all the bands I’ve been listening to lately are from San
    Francisco, which is bursting with creative energy right now! Aside
    from the bands Decomposition distributes – Deerhoof, Erase Errata,
    Quails, Concentrick, and the music from the Charm soundtrack – there
    are tons of great local bands and performers all with their own
    unique style and sound. Some newer ones include Numbers, Curtains,
    Crack, Total Shutdown, Gold Chains, Pink & Brown, Coachwhips, Tiny
    Bird Mouth, and the Pattern. At home I’ve mostly been listening to
    the Tigerbeat6 compilation and new releases by Neotropic and
    Dymaxion. As far as older stuff, I think I’ve listened to Alice
    Coltrane’s Journey In Satchidananda release from 1970 with Pharoah
    Sanders at least once a week for the past year! Also I just found a
    copy of Borbetomagus’ first LP and absolutely love it. Other than
    that, mostly bands from the 60s like the Feminine Complex and Pretty
    Things, hip-hop like Blackalicious and Dilated Peoples, and very
    avant garde experimental and electronic music. There’s a
    composer/sound artist Maryanne Amacher whom I like quite a lot. And
    lots of ESG.

    —-
    this was a long one, full of info. thanks very much, as always.
    PMA, as always.

    #69474

    SG
    Participant

    Bean-here it is

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