The End Of File Sharing Sites?

[SG]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050627/ap_ … ng_artists

I`m glad Jeff Tweedy from Wilco spoke out about it.Janis Ian too.

[rambleon]

exactly …

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I’m not a lawyer," she said, "but I don’t understand how they can hold a software company responsible for the misuses of their software and not hold gunmakers responsible for the misuses of their products."

[andyfest]

That’s it! I’m not buying anymore CDs from Don Henley, Shyrll Crow, the Dixie Chicks, Jimmy Buffett, Bonnie Raitt or Tom Jones! Oh wait, I wouldn’t anyway….

Seriously, this sucks. Notice it’s the artists that are already sleeping in piles of money that put up a fight while the less successful one’s defend free distribution of music. Hmmmm….

I’ve never been into file sharing or illegally downloading music but the "independent" artists need stuff like file sharing to get their name out there.

[SG]

I never stopped buying cd`s all the time I`ve d/l stuff.If someone is just d/l and not buying cd`s anymore then I can understand why the RIAA and artists are upset.It`s already been said that most people that use file sharing sites buy alot of cd`s(and even more so after hearing stuff they d/l).
It does seem the artists that are wealthy are fighting it the most which seems just greedy.Lesser known artists benefit alot from file sharing plus I think cd`s are overpriced and people need a way to sample stuff before buying it.

[Mattman]

That’s a strange article in that it doesn’t really mention anything about the case itself, just speculation on what the outcome means. I ain’t a lawyer, but from what I understand from the explanations from others, is that a lot of the effect of the descision focuses around this line:

"We hold that one who distributes a device with the object of promoting its use to infringe copyright, as shown by clear expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement, is liable for the resulting acts of infringement by third parties…"

In other words, the SCOTUS has ruled that it is illegal to distribute a product where your main advertising point is that of an illegal nature.

This, apparently, is precedence…

So, basically, the Supreme Court has sent this case back to the lower courts, and MGM will now have to prove that Grokster released their product with the intent that it’d be used primarily for purposes that violate copyright.

Anyway, p2p file sharing isn’t going to go away. Like always, it’ll just get driven further underground as the technology out paces the music industry and 2p2 software becomes more and more anonymous and invisible.

Here is a larger discussion on the issue by a lot of people who much more informed on these issues than I am.

[rambleon]

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I never stopped buying cd`s all the time I`ve d/l stuff.If someone is just d/l and not buying cd`s anymore then I can understand why the RIAA and artists are upset.It`s already been said that most people that use file sharing sites buy alot of cd`s(and even more so after hearing stuff they d/l).

right!! most of the people i know who are into this file sharing business also buy a LOAD of music as well …

anyhow … i guess it’s inevitable this sort of thing would come to court eventually, so let’s see what the final outcome is …

[SG]

Did you see a list of the most downloaded songs?It`s stuff that`s on the radio all the time like Hotel California.Why would someone want to d/l a song you can hear 17 times a week on the radio?

[andyfest]

"SG" wrote:

Did you see a list of the most downloaded songs?It`s stuff that`s on the radio all the time like Hotel California.Why would someone want to d/l a song you can hear 17 times a week on the radio?

No kidding. Or any song by the Eagles for that matter!

[Annastefka]

"rambleon" wrote:

It`s already been said that most people that use file sharing sites buy alot of cd`s
right!! most of the people i know who are into this file sharing business also buy a LOAD of music as well …

Yeah, I love to download songs to hear what they sound like, and especially bands I have heard a few people mention here on freakscene , I go and find them and take a listen, but after a time of listening to mp3 files, I really want to find a cleaner copy of a song I like.

The I had situation recently where I tried to find a copy of India by Coltrane for my daughter, that was a one time favorite of mine when I was my daughters age, I couldn’t find it on a file share and copies I have had have gone the way of friends and boyfriends, so we went out and bought it.

Yeah, I mean It must be tough on some folks like Sheryl Crowe and Company to take MANY a millions of dollars and make it stretch out over a life time.

[rambleon]

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Did you see a list of the most downloaded songs?It`s stuff that`s on the radio all the time like Hotel California.Why would someone want to d/l a song you can hear 17 times a week on the radio?

yeah, i know … we have i tunes over here, but it’s pretty mainstream … + even then they don’t have a lot of back catalogue stuff … i guess it is a kind of new service and i also am guessing it takes time to build up their collection of albums … but still, it’s pretty lame …

[SG]

"Annastefka" wrote:

The I had situation recently where I tried to find a copy of India by Coltrane for my daughter

You`re a good parent(and a cool one) I can`t imagine my parents buying Coltrane for me as a kid.Jack De Johnette does a good version of that song on his 1979 album Special Edition,it`s not as long as the original but a good rendition of it.

[Mattman]

I miss Audiogalaxy.

I received so much cool music from the Freakscene group… Like two days straight worth.

I wonder if we’ll ever have one of those again…

[Anthony]

"Mattman" wrote:

I miss Audiogalaxy.

I received so much cool music from the Freakscene group… Like two days straight worth.

I wonder if we’ll ever have one of those again…

i found this software one time. it was called ‘real damn small p2p’ or something like that.
only one file, and you had your own p2p network running.
i never tried it, but maybe cool for private networks.

skype has file sharing capabilities, and it’s free.

[Mattman]

The cool thing about Audiogalaxy was that you could form groups and them opt to let members of that group send you stuff unsolicited. All of us Freaksceners with broadband went to town…

I know it’s not everyone’s cup-o-tea to have stuff sent to them without asking, but the group membership was moderated by us and it was great coming back to my computer to find that I had new stuff already waiting for me.

Now that I think about it, AG functioned similar to the way that Bittorrent does, albeit on a lesser level. You’d request a song to either send to someone, or download for yourself, and the AG client would search out others on the network to pull the song from. It really helped lessen the upstream hit on individual member’s connection. I wonder if something could be rigged up using BT? …and would enough people be interested. I make no promises to take on such a project, but I may look into it, just to see what it would take.

[SG]

Yeah I miss AG too.I met some cool people there that I have`nt met anywhere else on the net again there was this one guy who was into Eleventh Dream Day like I am,another who was into Versus,and a grandmother from Tennessee that liked the Hellacopters song I sent her (actually she was`nt that old )
My jazz group was sucessful too,I had like 50 members which ranged from a woman from SC who was into Billie Holiday and Louis Armstrong to a guy in France into acid jazz.A death metalhead asked me for jazz recommendations which I thought was cool There was this nice guy from Argentina who wanted to move to America and become a jazz or blues pianist,I hope he did do that.

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