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[everyonelovesjaron]

You should have named your post "On The Road part II." That would have been truly hilarious.

[dimpfelmoser]

Actually, I think Jack Kerouacs On the Road is highly overated. Hasn´t anyone noticed that it is full of sexist crap?! And don´t anyone give me that Those-were-the-times bullshit.
gruss
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[inkling]

On The Road is SEXIST? Ah, come on, those were the times, man…….. But really, you think it’s "highly" overrated. What other American writer from that time depicted life "on the road" as well as Kerouac? You must not like Jack period. Or, for that matter, you must not like Bukowski at all! For he, my friend is sexist, racist, homophobic, a "bad writer", etc., etc, etc. I guess you could add John Fante to that list, as well as all those sexist musicians we all admire such as, say, Miles Davis! But opinions are just oinions, and to each his own. Whatever grates your cheese.

[everyonelovesjaron]

*Jaron thinks to self: Yes, yes, with the way I’m turning every conversation into a literary philiosophical debate, there will be a need for a philosophy forum soon. Oh yes… oh yes…*

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[AGAP]

Hey,

Glad to see your back dimpfelmoser, sounds like quite the trip. Did you ever find the Douglas Firs you were looking for, sounds like their out Seattle way.

ELJ…think you know how I feel about that philosophy deal… [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img]

Allison [img]images/smiles/converted/cwm12.gif[/img]

ELJ…you don’t work for US Mail do you, got my Chicago Bear Pez today, head was loose…just curious [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]

[everyonelovesjaron]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Another Girl Another Planet:
<STRONG>ELJ…you don’t work for US Mail do you, got my Chicago Bear Pez today, head was loose…just curious [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL. No, I don’t work for US Mail. Had the head not come at all, then you should’ve asked. [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]

[AGAP]

Hey ELJ,

My second suspect is the customs officer who inspected my package…and charged me five bucks for that [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img] Probably a vikings fan, tons of them around where I am from…kinda sad really [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img] Just hope they don’t rip my Pee Wee’s Playhouse paper tablecloth that is coming soon…definitely addicted to ebay [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img]

Looking forward to some more stories Dimpfelmoser, sure some interesting situations came up in those small towns… [img]images/smiles/converted/wink.gif[/img]

Allison [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]

[dimpfelmoser]

Hi Folks
Believe it or not, but I just came back from a two and a half months trip through America. Drove 13000 Miles and covered 38 states. And though we´ve been to New York, Las Vegas San Francisco, Seattle, Memphis, New Orleans, Washington DC and Boston (where finding internet access wasn´t always a top priority), most of the time we spent in the wilderness in between the big cities. Had a really really great time and it´s such a beautiful place, that I can understand now why Americans are so proud of their country. What I can´t understand is, why the Whities killed all the native Indians, since there seems to be such a lot of unpopulated space. Especially in Montana.
Anyway, we were in this pub in Memphis and Larry (a local) tried to convince us, that this place sold the best spare ribs in the country and virtually ordered us to, well…, order some. I declined politely but Larry was adamant, disappeared into the kitchen and came back with a teaser of two spare ribs. I then had to wolf them down and pretend how delicious they were, while truth to be told, they were quite revolting.
One of the great American misteries; they spend hours preparing some meat over the fire and then douse it all with so much BBQ sauce, that you can´t taste a damn thing anyway. Apart from the sauce that is. However, Larry then went on to ask me what I think about America and no matter how often I confirmed how great it is, he wanted to hear more. I then got a bit fed up with praising the States and tentativly ventured, that not everything was so great, really. Like what? asked Larry. Well, the Death Penalty for a start. That somehow led us to discuss Texas and no matter how much I tried to reason, Larry was convinced that Texas was bigger than the whole of Europe. Strange.
Not much later he bragged about going fishing with the father of Britney Spears, as if I couldn´t care less. He could somehow sense, that I wasn´t too impressed (thinking I didn´t believe a word) so he shouted to some fat guy at the other side of the bar (the one with the Certified Muff Diving Instructor T-Shirt):"Hey, who did we go fishing with the other weekend?!", and the other dutyfully replied: Britney Spear`s father! So in order to explain my disinterest I said: Actually I´m more of a Christina Augillera (don´t check that spelling, sounded fine) supporter; to which he replied: You know my favourite singer is Celin Dion. I couldn´t really think of anything to say to that, so I took my beer and went to the other side of the bar. Such a whacky bunch.
The other thing, whenever we went to a supermarket to buy some of Milwaukees Best, we had to show our IDs at the checkout. Well, I´m 34 and the woman I was with is 27, but hey, maybe we look so young and trendy. But then, not only one of us, but both had to show their IDs. Where is the sense in that?! Does that mean, that if a father goes shopping with his teenage daughter, he can´t buy beer? Very strange! Can someone explain this to me?
No smoking in Californian bars is next!
gruss
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PS: Should you ever be in San Francisco on a Sunday, you have to go to the Bottom of the Hill. A nice venue where you pay 5 dollars for all-you-can-eat-BBQ and 3 to 4 local bands. Had a lot of fun there and it´s a really good location.

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[inkling]

Just wanted to take a moment to clarify my earlier response to dimpfelmoser. I didn’t intend to come off as having a chip on my shoulder about Kerouac for god sakes. I guess I just enjoy debating, and in that, I was defending a hero of mine. That is all. I just don’t see how that book is overated. Appreciated maybe. Anyway, no need for a philosophy forum. Speaking my little mind is all. My 2 cents. weeeeeeee. I’m envious of your journeys, it really does sound like a blast. There are about 38 states I have yet to see and I’m from this place! I’m sure I’ll be seeing ya on the boards…..

[dimpfelmoser]

Well, since On The Road was the main inspiration for doing this trip, I´m kind of grateful to good old Jack and yet I found it slightly irritating how he implied that this free travelling was a male thing while his friend got women pregnant all over the country and that was supposed to be hip. On the same level, I found this laddishness in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas slightly out of order. You know, two buddies who take a lot of drugs and are oh-so-cool that they can take the piss out of everyone. Come on, been there done that, time to grow up.
If you have 38 states to see, I advise you to give Kansas a miss. There is absolutely nothing of interest there as far as I can tell. And if someone on this messageboard is from Kansas, I want your excuse for living there.
But if you ever happen to be in Seattle, go to the Sit`n`Spin. Best place in town and the beer is cheap.
Anyway, so we checked in at this campground at Lake Ontario and the girl at the reception had to type my name and adress into the computer. So I spelled my German name and explained at great length that Strasse is the German word for street to avoid confusion. City was next. I said Berlin, whereupon she asked (Cause then she had to fill in the state), would that be Berlin, New York, as apparently there is a Berlin in New York. And I replied, No it´s Berlin in Germany. And the we moved on to the little box where you had to write in the Country. And the girl asks: So, what country are you from?
OH well, some people.
gruss
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[Javro]

Dimpf – that is too freaky. Only yesterday did I post (bands with girly singers) asking where you were, et voila! You’re back.

And straight in to controversy – dissing all and sundry. How bored we have been without you – WELCOME BACK!

Look forward to more heated discussions (can’t remember what we called them before, but you said would have been a good name for a band – International Jolly Banter or some such.

Gruss.

[jeremiah]

Welcome back dimpfelmoser [img]images/smiles/converted/smile.gif[/img]

sounds like a fun trip. Just how long did you talk to that Larry? Sounds like an odd character! Hell, it sounds like you found America’s best! If you ever find yourself missing those enlightening conversations with Larry and that ‘pro muff diver’ [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/converted/lol.gif[/img] I’ll send you a tape with Jerry Springer episodes on it.

The beer thing is odd. Really depends on how much of an asshole the person at the register wants to be. I have seen people turned away because they were purchasing beer and had a minor with them. Just strange. They are only responsible for the person making the purchase so any inquiries other than that are just bullshit. Oddly enough I was never carded until I was actually legal!!?? Strange.

with that said – [img]images/smiles/converted/cwm8.gif[/img] Milwaulkees Best

Welcome back [img]images/smiles/converted/smile.gif[/img]

[dimpfelmoser]

Funny thing, almost everyone we met looked down on us because most of the time Milwaukees Best was the drink of our choice. Well, partly because it´s so cheap, but then again it´s much closer to the Beer brewed here according to the German purity Law. Meaning you aren´t allowed to use additives or artificial flavouring. Budweiser comes closest though and we had that every once in a while. Doesn´t mean that I want everything to be like it is back home, but I have to admit that some of those heavily flavoured American beers are not my cup of tea.
The ID thing is really such a pain in the ass. We went to see Cinerama at the Crocodile Café in Seattle and the bouncer wouldn´t let me in. I mean, I had my driving licence and my German ID with me, but this tosser insisted that he needed my passport. And remember, I´m 34. So we had to walk all the way back to the hostel, to get my passport (Fortunately it was quite close). What a hassel.
When I was 11 I saw Status Quo in Germany and had no problems to get in whatsoever. Hey, I was 11, so no insults about the Status Quo bit. OK?!
gruss
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[jeremiah]

LOL – Had to throw in my jab @ the Beast (Milwaukees Best) because I have had that many, many times myself. The deciding factor = money for me [img]images/smiles/converted/smile.gif[/img]
I agree with you about the american beer. When I do pick american beer it is always because of the price. When I have my choice + money I usually go for Guiness or NewCastle.

That bouncer sounds like a dick. What a pain in the ass that must have been. Definatly a good thing you were staying nearby!

Did you go to the EMP when you were in Seattle? J said it sucked but I would still like to go see the Jazzmaster [img]images/smiles/converted/smile.gif[/img]

jeremiah

ps – Who are(were) Status Quo?

[everyonelovesjaron]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Another Girl Another Planet:
<STRONG>Hey ELJ,

My second suspect is the customs officer who inspected my package…and charged me five bucks for that [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img] Probably a vikings fan, tons of them around where I am from…kinda sad really [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img] Just hope they don’t rip my Pee Wee’s Playhouse paper tablecloth that is coming soon…definitely addicted to ebay [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img]

Looking forward to some more stories Dimpfelmoser, sure some interesting situations came up in those small towns… [img]images/smiles/converted/wink.gif[/img]

Allison [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Vikings fans – there’s one thing both Lions and Bears fans can love to hate. That and Packers fans.

Peewee’s Playhouse Table Cloth? Oh, dear lord… another friend of mine bought a Mr. T Chia Pet Head the other day on ebay. Scary. [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]

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