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    Alright, although I try to appear so openminded and cosmopolitan, my main interest over the last years basically centered on Bossa Nova, Space Age Bachelor Pad Music, Mambo and Brazilectric. I like a lot of House, Techno, Drum and Bass, 60s Soul and Boogaloo but I´m not an expert with these genres.
    With Bossa Nova however I feel competent enough to come forward with a few recommendations.
    You can´t go wrong with Walter Wanderley. He is the King of the Hammond Organ Bossa Nova and everything he did untill the late 60s (when he started to use moogs and lost it somehow) is utterly wonderful. For a start, check out the the album he recorded with Astrud Gilberto. Every song a true gem.
    Before we set out to drive all over America, I compiled 27 tapes with my favourite songs to listen to in the car and during the final week, when we listened to them for the last time, we rated them and Walter Wanderley usually got the highest marks. By the way, Muck and Feel a whole lot better when you´re gone came out best as far as Dino songs were concerned, which is odd, cause previously they weren´t my favourites.
    That´s interesting.
    Roberto Menescal did some very relaxed stuff in the 60s, alas his recordings are hard to come by nowadays.
    Easier to find stuff from Sergio Mendes. Basically everything until he teemed up with Brazil 66 and went pop, but the album he recorded with Wanda Sah is particulary enchanting.
    Tamba 3 and later Tamba 4 are equally good, although sometimes they overdo it with the strings me thinks. Still, their version of The Girl from Ipanema is my absolute favourite and let me tell you, over the last years I managed to get my hands on 36 different versions of this wonderful tune.
    And of course Jazz Samba by Stan Getz/Charlie Byrd (the album that started the Bossa Nova craze in America) and Getz/Gilberto are absolute classics. A must for every record collection.
    Really this music is so uplifting, smooth and still so groovy. One of my best memories of America is driving down the scenic roads of Utah while listening to Brazillian music.
    Give it a try.
    And now it´s your turn to recommend some obscure/exotic stuff you like.



    Good choices dimpfelmoser,bossanova is really cool;I have that Getz/Byrd jazz samba album on vinyl,very good stuff.Getz usually got criticized for the brazilian influence,critics said it was commercial,hardly!Getz took his bebop schooling and mixed it with brazilian music,hardly commercial.
    Other bossa stuff you should check out is Jobim(of course),Ellis Regina(great female singer),Bola Sete(guitarist),Luiz Bonfa(guitarist),Laurinda Almieda(guitarist,did an album in the 60`s with Sammy Davis Jr.!).
    Check out some Cal Tjader,latin jazz vibraphonist,played with Dave Brubeck in the 50`s and cut a number of cool solo albums,lots of bongos and flutes and cool stuff like that.Some of his music is cheesy but alot of it is very cool.
    Mongo Santamaria is really good as well.
    I think I`ll mention a mix of stuff :
    Shakti with John Mclaughlin-cool east indian raga stuff,with Ravi Shankar`s nephew on violin.very intense music.
    Maleen Maloun Ghania(I problably spelled that wrong)and Pharoah Sanders-This album came out in the early 90`s,Ghania is a morroccan musician and Sanders is a American jazz musician known for his work with John Coltrane
    I heard this on the radio,very cool stuff,I`m a Sanders fan so it`s very exciting to hear him with Morrocan musicians,sax with tribal chanting and drumming.
    Tuvan overtone throat singing-way cool!Tuva is a country in the former USSR,I think it`s near Mongolia,throat singing is done in the these countries in this part of the world like Tibet as well.It`s something about singing OM! and holding it for over a minite until overtones start coming out,the Tuvans,Tibetans,and Mongolians are masters of this so I find it hard for me to do!



    Yeah, Cal Tjader did good stuff well into the 80s. I like his uptempo numbers best. There was this Japanese band called Mambossa who were heavily influenced by Cal Tjader. To my knowledge they released only one CD in the mid 90s, but it´s really worth having. Great Mambo/Bossa Nova versions of Charade and The Lady is a Tramp.
    Since two years I´m trying to get my hands on a record from Laurindo, where he recorded as Laurindo Almeida and the Bossa Nova Allstars, but so far had no luck.
    Ellis Reginas voice really doesn´t do much for me and Tom Jobim did his best stuff when he kind of worked in the background for others. Definately not a gifted singer.
    Herbie Mann (flute) did some Bossa Nova albums (Mendes and Jobim on them) which are quite good. Actually, Herbie Mann teamed up with Stereolab for their One Note Samba/Surfboard medley.
    Well worth checking out.
    Enough namedropping for now.

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    You ain’t as highbrow as you think – all that world music and no mention of Die Fantastischen Vier.

    Call yourself "eclectic"???

    Other stuff I am currently listening to includes Otis Redding (always), Aspects (wicked, wicked UK hip-hop), Caveman (same), 3rd Bass, K Solo, Rakim, Roni, Die, Krust and crew, Optical and Ed Rush, Nick Drake.

    Barely a white boy in site. But then again, not too many gay didge players.

    Javro geht wieder.



    I’m sure all you "eclectic" types have heard it, but maybe the ones who aren’t so damn cool and hip might want to checl out Antonio Carlos Jobim’s solo stuff. Better yet, try Jaoa Gilberto’s solo recordings. Brilliiant music! Also, everything Gil Evans did was incredible. Not Bossa Nova, but somehow it relates. More like the Cal Tjader stuff, but better! "Individualism" by Gil Evans is one of my all time favorite records of any type or genre of music. If you haven’t heard his stuff, do your self a huge favor and check this one out. That’s all for me.



    Gil Evans was great,he actually grew up in my home province in Canada,before he went to the states.The stuff he did with Miles is brilliant,as well as albums under his own name.
    I have a late 50`s cheap compliation that has alot of jazz standards,very good stuff,best version of "Django" I ever heard.There`s also a late 70`s album called "Priestess" I like as well.
    Trivia:Getz/Byrd`s Jazz Samba had percussion work from Bill Reicheinbach,who did he work with in the 80`s on trombone?



    I’m not really fimiliar with the name Bill Reicheinbach, but I do know the Getz/Byrd record. Infact that whole series of Getz’ Bossa Nova stuff is great. I think there are 5 total. They all have that painting, but each one is a different color, correct? That’s how I know it. I usually remember albums by the cover rather than name and those paintings are nice. Anyway, back to that lil’ trivia question. I’m gonna guess it’s either Herbie Hancock, or possibly Quincy Jones. That is a total guess. I’m not the biggest fan of 80’s jazz music. I think that’s where the hip hop, and rap comes in. That 80’s jazz stuff is pretty Kenny Loggins to me. BUT I haven’t heard much of it. Maybe there’s some stuff worth while. I hear that certain Pat Metheny records are worth a listen though. I haven’t had the interest to venture on that listening experience. So who the hell is it anyway?



    Tom Waits on "swordfishtrombones" album from 83.



    Wow! That is such a fucking coincedence because I just listened to swordfishtrombones last night as I was going to sleep. No lie!! It’s a strange strange world. Good to know. I was way off, but I do love Waits!!



    Thanks for the Gil Evans recommendation. Will give that a listen very soon.
    Because of the cool-tunes-for-commercial-topic I was reminded of the brilliance of Perez Prado. Lou Bega slaughtered his Mambo No. 5 but don´t let that put you off. Perez invented the Mambo Rock back in the 50s/60s and he did some really great stuff. Not all of his records are indispensable, but since he recorded such a lot, I´m willing to forgive him for the few lame ones.
    More Trivia: At the end of Jack Kerouacs On The Road, when the two guys go down to Mexico and spend their days in the brothel, they listen to Perez Prado all the time.

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    Perez Prado`s music is cool.First heard him about 6 years ago during the lounge revival thing,the local college station used to play him.also on Canada`s national radio station the CBC they used to have a show called "Radio Shangri-la",I don`t know if if it`s still on so someone tell me if it is;that show played Prado,Martin Denny,Anita O`day,Astrud Gilberto,Bacharach,Lena Horne,Esquival,etc. so I got to hear alot of good stuff there.
    Thanks for telling me about that Lou Bega song,I did`nt know it was Prado.




    My "eclectic" tastes don’t seem to go in the same direction as you guys but hey nothing wrong with that [img]images/smiles/converted/newangel.gif[/img]

    I just love that jangly rock and roll sound, including Chuck Berry, James Brown, Little Richard scares me but what a voice..very cool. Even go for that rock and roll piano sound of Jerry Lee Lewis…Hellacopters are using a punked up rock and roll piano sound gotta love that. As I mentioned in a different thread I love most Motown sounds, some blues with Etta James but not a lot…just not messy enuf for me…oh well [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img]

    Otis Redding is amazing, some friends just had their debut gig awhile ago..3 horn players and all the other basics. They did Security by Otis but covered it like The Saints did…very cool. They also did tunes by Aretha, Rufus Thomas, Richard Berry, Honey and The Bees, Al Green, Spencer Davis, Meters, Rudy and The Soulsetters and Slim Harpo/Charlie Rich. Very cool songs, very nice to see my pals…guitar/drums playing again…looking forward to more shows. Sadly that will be awhile, emailed me last nite that he sacked two of the horn players and the bass player…sad. He has a great site that reviews tons of "eclectic" releases…will repost that link when its back up.

    Glad you guys like Jazz, just doesn’t work for my ears…has the same effect as country on these ears…ahhhhh. Have never really been motivated to look further into it, might check out some of the suggestions…if I am brave [img]images/smiles/converted/cwm12.gif[/img]

    Wilson Pickett is also pretty cool, have a single with Midnight Hour that got played every New Years Eve…predictable yes but fun.
    He is threatening to never return to Canada after getting strip searched by customs…god that sucks [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img] What could a 60 year old guy bring into Canada that is not already here…YIKES.




    Always glad to hear from you Allison.
    The rock and roll piano sound from Jerry Lee was very influenced by late 1930`s boogie woogie piano played by guys like Cow Cow Davenport,Albert Ammons,Meude Lux Lewis,etc. so Jerry Lee revived that stuff 20 years after the fact and called rock and roll piano,hardly.
    I`m glad to hear your friends band did a Slim Harpo tune,that`s cool Slim is very forgotten in my opinion,glad someone does his tunes,the stones love him,like on exile when they do "Shake your hips".
    Jazz is`nt easy to get into,it usually takes more brain power from me than rock music but it is worth the effort,check out some Miles Davis like Kind Of Blue or John Coltrane`s Giant Steps for starters or the radio,though I find there`s too much recent jazz stuff instead of the old classics,that bothers me because that is what people should know,not any of the stuff around today,just rehashing the past,listen to the past!that`s the best stuff!



    Hey Salmiguy,

    Always cool to hear from you as well [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img] I think every style of music has been influenced, revived or however you want to put it by something that came before…only my opinion though. People have always incorporated stuff they listen to into their own experiments in music, some of the most thrilling stuff I listen to comes from that…J comes to mind [img]images/smiles/converted/wink.gif[/img] But does that make the new stuff less valid or thrilling in the now sort of way, in my opinion no. I listen to tons of old stuff for the reasons you outlined, but also new stuff like The Hellacopters. These guys are heavily influenced by Stooges, MC5 and Sonics Rendezvous Band but have put their own spin on it and it definitely works for me…in the now sort of way [img]images/smiles/converted/wink.gif[/img] So yeah Jerry Lee Lewis revived something, but hey better than losing it…and the label bit well whatever you want to call it is cool with me.

    Thanks for the tips, will try to be brave and check it out. Funhouse has some pretty jazzed up moments… [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img] I have listened to some Calloway, usually thru exposure to old cartoons like Betty Boop or Felix the Cat…psychotic some of those old cartoons..yikes. Only other major exposure was from the mini jazz band in Pee Wee’s Playhouse…hehe…just messing with you.

    Allison [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]



    I was`nt trying to diss Jerry Lee,ever hear that Star Club album?amazing stuff,just as punk as you can get.
    the new stuff I was talking about was in reference to jazz,not rock.Jazz in the past 25 years has`nt been as good than the decades before it,so that`s my diss there,Inkling said he was`nt too in to 80`s jazz,I agree,so I was just adding from that.
    The MC5 and Stooges loved 60`s free jazz,Sun Ra,Archie Shepp,John Coltrane,the later Coltrane from 65 to 67 is extremely wild stuff,most people in their right mind avoid this,but it really helped develop punk,they called it energy music,the Velvet Underground was another group influenced by free jazz,that screeching viola you hear on "Heroin" from their debut album was from listening to Albert Ayler`s violinist,whose name I forgotten.
    That Sonic Rendezvous band you mentioned is where Sonic Youth got their name,Sonic from that band and Youth from reggae band Big Youth.
    Etta James you mentioned before,there`s this amazing record of hers called "Rocks the house" it`s live in Nashville in 1963;I wish they`d put it on cd,I don`t think it is yet;the audience is very rowdy,there`s this part at the start of one tune when she goes ohhhhhh
    and the crowd goes ohhhhhh then she does it again and the third time she does ahwahhhhhh! really loud it problably broke glasses! and the crowd tries to sing it but can`t! Pretty funny! I don`t own this album but have 3 songs taped from the radio,not very well recorded but still not too bad,amazing stuff!
    The jazz band from Pee Wee`s show was influential to me as well,was it dirty dog,chicky baby and cool cat I think?
    Cab was way cool,hate that swing revival stuff,novelty stuff,if Cab was here he give them an earful!Cab even wanted to do his tune "Minnie The Moocher" in the blues brothers movie disco style!they did`nt let him.

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