October 17, 2000 at 8:14 pm #43415
Now that most of you guys would own or heard More Light, i wanna know what you all think of it!
My opinion at first was,"where are all the solos i have grown to love(where you been is solo heaven) and where are the songs that make you feel a hundred emotions? I believe they were no where to be seen on my fist listen.
Now that i have listened to More light a few hundred times, i gotta say that j has done a might-ee job! Not as many solos but still a top C.D.!!!!!!!
What do you guys think?
"its better than a kick in the face with a golf shoe"
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[This message has been edited by antipop (edited October 17, 2000).]October 18, 2000 at 5:03 pm #56268
I think ‘more light’ is amazing musically, vocally and lyrically. J sounds more upbeat and optimistic about life in general which is great. The use of keyboards is superb, and creates a whole new backdrop to J’s voice. The backing vocals are very heartfelt and compliment J’s voice well. There are many different styles on the album, from the 60’s feel of Waistin’ to the pounding rhythm and noise of the title track, my favourite track, though, is ammaring. I just can’t wait to hear them live, along with all the Dino classics.
‘By the shore-line,
will you be fine?’October 19, 2000 at 1:32 pm #56269
I just wanna start by saying: great album.
Great solo’s (no lack of them, certainly, and i do think he’s still getting better), beautiful backing vocals ("It’s kinda sad, to know you’re going")Bob Pollard is great. I especially love Same Day and Where’d you go. And also "Can’t I Take This On" J’s songs always make me smile in a way.
But I was wondering if you all got the bonus cd. I just don’t get those two songs. I like em but….. There’s no guitar, and they’re weird songs. It’s sorta like the stuff Lou always used to do. I respect J wanting too experiment and stuff, but it doesn’t sound like the stuff he usually does.
P.s. I love the "J leading old people" pictures. (what’s he doing there?)
-"I feel your eyes upon me. How should I act today?"
October 19, 2000 at 4:39 pm #56270
what bonus cd?
where did you buy it from?
what country and what shop?
and what are the songs called?
‘By the shore-line,
will you be fine?’October 19, 2000 at 7:44 pm #56271
This is unbelievable, you mean you guys didn’t get the bonus cd. ok then I have to email Jeremiah about this. I’ll put it on
the News forum.
November 13, 2000 at 9:02 am #56272
The more light album is great. I think it sounds a like a combination of "hand it over" and "without a sound". I really love the background vocals and the various of instruments.
The bonus-CD is a two track mini-CD. It features weird keyboard songs that J made. I bought my copy in Holland.
November 21, 2000 at 8:54 am #56273
I really like the new album. ‘Grand me to you’ is my favourite as well as ‘All the girls’. There are only three songs I don’t really like (More light and track.nr 3+4, don’t know the titles now). The bonus-cd is very special, but I don’t listen to it very often. The rest of the album is really great and I listen to it almost every day. I think it’s better as ‘Hand it over’. I’m very curious how it will sound live.
November 24, 2000 at 6:08 pm #56274
I just finally got More Light yesterday (came in the mail after a month with no Where’d You Go Single because it’s backordered).
Listening to the songs on real audio way back in the summer I finally get to here quality sound.
Waistin: when I first hear the real audio of this I thought it was kind of boring and in a way a parody of dinosaur jr but now after hearing it acoustic and having a good listen to all the piano and stuff I appreciate it as great songwriting.
the song ‘More Light’ kicks ass I can just imagine J sitting at the drums while recording and beating the shit out of them for five minutes.
I’m Not Fine: the first time I heard this song I liked it but felt guilty for liking it. Then quickly I hated it (the reason I listen to music like Dinosaur is because I hate 70’s riff rock cock rock). but now I don’t really care anymore and I’ll listen thru it and enjoy it.
I think Same Day, Where’d You Go, Back Before You Go, Ground Me To You, Ammaring, All The Girls, and Does The Kiss Fit
are the 7 best songs J ever wrote
Can I Take This On is really cool lot’s of neat sounds, an awesome verse, a unique chorus, and incredible drumming.
Singles: I think Where’d You Go was a good choice for a single because the chorus is so catchy an anthemic. Same Day would be a good single too but there isn’t really a chorus so people might have trouble remembering it. Back Before You Go is incredibly catchy too and would make a great single.
The sound is incredibly thick kinda like Hand It Over. new listeners might be turned off by this because it would be hard to absorb but season fans like me love this.
I was thinking of rating it as 4 out of 5 but then after listening to it it is defintely 5 out of 5 because I like all the songs on it.
I’m glad J is continuing to work on making pop songs rather than making "sad bastard music" like lots of solo artists do.
favorites: my current favorites are Ammaring, Ground Me To You (piano is a nice addition to J’s music), and does the kiss fit. Initially my favorite were Back Before You Go, Where’d You Go, and All The Girls.
My official review:
"The album makes you want more but since you can’t get more the only choice you have is to play it again and again"
5 out of 5
[This message has been edited by bob (edited November 24, 2000).]November 24, 2000 at 7:50 pm #56275
Excuse me please. As much as I like J. Mascis and Dinosaur Jr., I think this kind of mindless adoration is getting slightly out of hand. It’s a great Album, no question about that, but not necessarily everything on it is perfect. The fadeouts are a drawback and the keyboards suck on some occasions. And anyway, is this planet Progrock here? What is this obsession with soli? Much respect to J. cause actually, he does the only soli I can listen to, but in my view there are enough of them on More Light. 5 out of 5? No way! Try to get things into perspective. But yeah, it’s just my humble opinion, so don’t get upset. You’re living all over me remains my favourite.
November 24, 2000 at 8:27 pm #56276
Must have been difficult waiting for a month for More Light!! Nice to hear someone else appreciate the song More Light, your right the drumming is great, together with the swirling feedback it is amazing.
ps mindless is kind of harsh
November 24, 2000 at 8:42 pm #56277
Okay five out of five might be extreme 4.5/5 then. I gave it a good rating because I grew to like all the songs on it. It wasn’t mindless adoration didn’t you read my criticisms and I do believe that the 7 songs I mentioned are the best J ever. If you’re looking for a perfect album then YLAOM doesn’t deserve 5 out of 5 either. The More Light album is not prog rock at all and the "soli"s are at a minimum.
I waited nearly 4 years for this album and I wasn’t disappointed. Ok you brainwashed me and I guess 5 out of 5 is extreme. but by your definition I don’t think any albums in the world would be 5 out of 5 why don’t you list some albums that you feel deserve that rating.
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[This message has been edited by bob (edited November 24, 2000).]November 24, 2000 at 9:37 pm #56278
I never said that More Light was prog rock, but the reason why I lost intrest (once) in Dinosaur Jr. was because of Green Mind, which I though was drifting alarmingly towards this awfull gengre. I don’t know, it’s just that I used to listened to so much Punk and as my understanding of it, Punk was the antidote to Prog rock. If you can follow this line of reasoning (I’m not sure I can).
Anyway, the tricky 5 out of 5 or ten out of ten question. It has to be a record where every single song is a classic. A record you can hear over and over again, and where you can detect something new and interesting every so often. Where even then artwork is perfect. A record that grows on you. Hey, it’s so great that we are all different, so my choice isn’t by all means objective. Probably depends on your state of mind when you first heard this record .
For instance, 10 out of 10 for Daydream Nation (Sonic Youth). Made me a real addict. Still sounds great. Nice Cover. Have to stop now, otherwise I would get carried away.
Getz/Gilberto by errrrm, Stan Getz and J. Gilberto. Almost 40 years old and still as fresh and new as it was in the 60s. I know, some peolple dismiss it as corny and kitsch. But it’s not. A sunset can never be kitsch, only the reproduction of it. And Girl from Ipanema is simply such a great song.
Surfer Rosa by the Pixies. I love Steve Albinis production and I love the Pixies. So this was a perfect combination. It’s really amazing how trendy the Pixies sound today. I wish Steve Albini would produce J. Mascis, cause Steve is so obsessed with guitars, but his style is completetly different from Js. Would be interesting.
Well, the last one has to be Boss Hogs selftiteled album from 95 (or was it 94). I know, I’m alone here. I never met anyone who likes it half as much as I do, but to me its just the perfect record. I like everything about it. The cover. The coverversion of the Ike & Tina classic. The strings on Texas. The Harp on I did you. The production; the tunes, the attitude. I know, I’m hopeless.
Well, scuse me. Guess that was really boring.
November 24, 2000 at 9:46 pm #56279
that’s a good criteria . every song being a classic. Surfer Rosa and Daydream Nation have songs on them that don’t quite do it for me though. There are a lot of album however that have only one song that stop them from being all classics so I would still include them (like Buffalo Tom’s Let Me Come Over). I would also make give a full stars to an album that does everything it set out to do or is a musical turning point like Surfer Rosa, Daydream Nation, or YLAOM.
November 24, 2000 at 9:59 pm #56280
Well, for 10 out of 10 every song has to be a classic, but the record still has to make sense as a whole, like a good film or a good painting. Like the 8. Song on Daydream Nation (can’t remeber the titel, the one that isn’t really a song), it’s not something I would put on a compilation tape, but it makes sense with the rest of the music. And Candle sounds so much better because of it. As for Buffalo Tom, I always thought they were a Dino rip off, but maybe I’m wrong. Only like their first two records though. No offence.
November 24, 2000 at 10:33 pm #56281
No offense taken but I do think you’re wrong. We should move this discussion. I looked thru my albums and I only found a few that have every song as a classic.
My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
Pavement – Watery Domestic
Built To Spill – There’s Nothing Wrong With Love
Throwing Muses – Real Ramona
Dinsoaur Jr – Where You Been
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