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    FlyingCloud
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    silentwordspeakloudest

    a quote in advance to please dB: :wink:

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    And last night he was rocking the bodywarmer look.

    Wednesday, November 20, 2002:
    Jurassic Park!

    Last night really was what gigs are all about – half an hour queueing in the freezing cold to snaffle up one of four remaining tickets for J Mascis’s solo show at the Social, and what turned out to be a fucking awesome evening’s entertainment.

    Supporting was, according to a guy behind me in the queue, "a bloke from some band called Codeine". Yep, Chris Brokaw, another American alt-rock legend and veteran of not one but two criminally underrated bands from 90s underground rock. Drumming for Codeine he had a hand in their Frigid Stars LP, one of the most majestic articulations of misery you’re ever likely to hear, and a record which paved the way for the likes of Low and Mogwai. Brokaw spent most of the 90s working with Thalia Zedek in Come, producing a couple of very fine albums along the way (1994’s Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and 1996’s Near-Life Experience) and signing the T-shirt that features on the cover of Sonic Youth’s Washing Machine album.

    So, there I was, exchanging glances with the man himself in a packed-out venue both before and during his acoustic set: I knew who he was, he knew I knew who he was, he knew nearly no-one else knew who he was. Which led to the slightly surreal feeling that he was directing the rendition of ‘Recidivist’ (from Come’s 1998 album Gently Down The Stream) straight at me. Tracks from his recent LP Red Cities got an airing, as did a track he’s co-written for Evan Dando’s new album, but it was fairly clear the audience had only come to see one man, and it wasn’t him. Why does everyone in the Social have to be so damn, well, social? His acoustic was always fighting a losing battle against the chatterers. A shame, and no ‘Shoot Me First’ either.

    So, it was the Lord Of The Drawl everyone was there to see, J Mascis. Dinosaur Jr always were a bunch of misfits and outsiders – even within the hardcore scene from which they emerged, thanks to their apolitical slacker apathy and guitarist who could really fucking play – and J remains one of the most recognisable and idiosyncratic people in rock. He’s long been considered a wizard, and now he’s starting to look like one, his stoner locks becoming increasingly streaked with grey – kinda like Noodles from The Offspring if he were to be shut up in a cave with The Grateful Dead for a couple of years, with the mannerisms and speech of someone who’s just been woken up from a deep sleep only to be injected with morphine. And last night he was rocking the bodywarmer look.

    And he played some music too. Not an acoustic set but a solo set (so there was some serious volume), and not a load of songs from the new Fog album Free So Free but a whole slew of classic tunes from his entire career. And it was absolutely magic. We got ‘Freakscene’ as early as the third song, along with ‘Ammaring’, ‘Same Day’ and ‘Waistin’ from the first Fog album More Light and Dinosaur tracks ‘Flying Cloud’, ‘Grab It’ and ‘Even You’ plus ‘What Else Is New?’ and a brilliant ‘Get Me’ from my favourite album Where You Been?. ‘Alone’, the sprawling centrepiece of 1997’s swansong Hand It Over, wrapped up the main set and after a single-song encore of ‘The Wagon’, the legend was gone.

    Cheers to all the guys from Night With No Name and Why Can’t We Just All Get Along? for a fantastic night.
    Ben // 9:00 AM

    #83893

    rambleon
    Participant

    that’s a pretty enthusiastic review … thanks fc 8)

    #83894

    jasper
    Participant

    Holy shit! :shock: He played "Even You"! Has he ever played that live in the past seven years? Damn. Anything is possible now. Next thing you know, he’ll be playing "Turnip Farm" and "Over Your Shoulder" live. Gotta see him again.

    #83895

    Javro
    Moderator

    now I know I was drunk as shit, but I’m willing to bet a lot of cash that he didn’t play even you or grab it. think the guy may have been thinking about little fury things

    #83896

    jasper
    Participant

    Shit. That does, indeed, sound more likely. The guy sounded quite reliable, though.

    #83897

    Javro
    Moderator

    told ya that the nottingham folk didn’t know the songs 8)

    #83898

    simmons
    Participant

    `even you might´ might have been mistaken for `blowin it´. `grab it´ is often mistaken for `little fury things´… – just look at the back cover of Monsters eat Orpheum.

    nowadays, J is playing an acoustic freakscene and just like heaven so correct me if I´m wrong… :D

    #83899

    Javro
    Moderator

    yep, he played both of those.

    was just being flippant in my previous post by the way.

    #83900

    FlyingCloud
    Participant

    oooops! here’s someone getting quite upset & emotional about our discussion here on the FeakScene board… :oops: :!: although Javro took back his remark 2 posts later… (and I think it was tongue-in-cheek anyway) :|

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    Fan-atics

    Now this really annoys me. Ben has his review of J Mascis’s gig at The Social in Nottingham posted on J Mascis’s own website Freakscene. Then the assorted J Mascis fans doubt the veractiy of his claim that he played Even You or Grab It. It’s not that pisses me off. It’s the last response from one ‘Javro’ that claims "told ya that the nottingham folk didn’t know the songs" http://freakscene.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=30166″>http://freakscene.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=30166. Jesus H Christ. I hate this sort of sniffy, snide criticism, designed to elevate that particular fan above the rest. Yeah, so Ben might have got it wrong – so fucking what? At least he owns and pays attention to much of the J Mascis and Dinosaur Jr canon which quite frankly is a rarity in these Strokes and Vines dominated times.

    Well done mate, you know more about J Mascis than he does. I don’t purport to know much about the guy – I only own Bug and More Light – but when I do know something a fellow fan doesn’t, I do not paint him as some pig igorant yokel in the style of a prissy, nerdish nitwit. I reserve such critical wit for morons who think Ocean Colour Scene, Stereophonics and Oasis are the centre of their universe, bands who I truly detest. The thing is you both evidently enjoy Dinosaur Jr, why not leave it there? Why not educate instead of taking the piss? Hopefully you will come to a juncture in your life where you might realise that your maniacal adherence to the genius of J Mascis, is not to a divine spirit or demi-god but to a human being. Proving you know more isn’t actually some test of your faith. Try and re-evaluate what’s important in life.

    #83901

    simmons
    Participant

    hmmm…

    I don’t think it was noone’s intension to be racistial towards anyone, see it more like some of those old kinds of bad jokes that for instance the swedish and norwegians make of eachother.

    #83902

    rambleon
    Participant

    easy !!

    i think that reviewer guy’s taking it all a bit seriously now … i don’t think anyone around here posts anything mean or malicious …

    from what i read of it javro was just having a laugh … right ?

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