August 28, 2001 at 10:36 am #44008
Turnipfarmer mentioned Gobblehoof,J produced their second album,he played on the first,on drums in 89.I found a copy around used in 98;J also does backing vocals and plays some guitar.Charles Nakajima from Deep Wound was also in this band.August 28, 2001 at 11:27 am #60473
I haven’t heard any Gobbblehoof, have been looking around for the record J plays guitar on -but with no luck so far. Do you have any views on them Salamiguy?August 28, 2001 at 3:44 pm #60474
As far as I know,they only did 2 albums;the one I have and another that J produced,according to Tunipfarmer.J plays very little guitar on the album I have,mostly sticks to the drums but does some cool backing vocals.
Some of the songs are metal like,some indie rock like;like one song sounds like early Yo La Tengo,the 2nd track sounds very dinosaur like.
Not too long ago,johnbonhamisgod filled us in in this section somewhere on Gobblehoof,I`ll look for it and post here where to find it.August 28, 2001 at 4:00 pm #60475
Could you up an MP3 to an FTP? Be much appreciated, I’d like some studio J. drumming.August 28, 2001 at 4:08 pm #60476
as far as I know Gobblehoof did 2 albums (one of which is a mini) a 7" single called Headbanger (a track from 2nd LP) and also contribute a cover version of Alone again Or (by Love) to a Love tribute album which came on 3×10" vinyl and a double 7" I think was on Chunk records in about 1994.March 2, 2002 at 11:14 pm #60477
Actually, that cover of "Alone Again, Or" came out on Never Shake A Baby Records. In fact, I had the opportunity to play drums for Arthur Lee some years ago (pre incarceration, of course) and he told me that it was his favorite song on the compilation. He said he dug it because "it has absolutely no reverance for the original." One other song did come out by Gobblehoof, called "Ecstasy Inn." It was on a compilation of Western Mass. bands called "Big Fish in a Little Sea" on JAMA Disc. Good luck finding that one! I think that Sebadoh had a song on that one as well. I know that they wanted to put a Dinosaur Jr. song on too, but J had the good sense not to get involved with the ROYAL PRICK that was running that label.
<small>[ 03-02-2002, 09:19 PM: Message edited by: johnbonhamisgod ]</small>March 3, 2002 at 5:50 pm #60478
It’s no doubt that the ‘Hoof was not everyone’s cup of tea. In fact, when at it’s best, it was a very dark, evil vibes kind of band. I feel that it was representative of the space that we all were living in at the time. We were all in our early twenties, and each member was chemically dependent in their own special way. If you think it sounds creepy on record, all I can say is, you should’ve seen it live. Charlie was known for his menacing visage, but the reality is you couldn’t meet a kinder, more gentle soul. People would often refer to him as a satanic eskimo. People still tell me to this day that they consider some of those early ‘Hoof shows to be among the best they’ve ever seen. One that stands out in peoples minds was a gig at Hampshire college opening for Nirvana, right after "Bleach" came out. I know that those boys dug it. And it’s how I met my girlfriend, and I’ve been with her for over seven years now, so it couldn’t have all been bad!
-George-March 4, 2002 at 2:24 am #60479
The two albums and the headbanger single can be bought at http://www.musicweb.com for really cheap because they’re overstocks. I have the three, some of the stuff is almost good, but I’m thoroughly unmoved by it. Very sludgy with Nakajima’s very creepy bassy vocals.March 4, 2002 at 3:28 pm #60480
George-thanks for the info on Gobblehoof,cool to hear from you again.Working with Arthur Lee must have been cool,Love`s Forever Changes is one of the 60`s most overlooked albums.March 5, 2002 at 10:28 am #60481
Forever Changes is kinda cool, but something that always annoyed me…
what the hell is "and more again" – from "and if you see and more again, then you will know and more again".
I used to think it was "and if you see Aunt Morgan"… Think I preferred that!March 5, 2002 at 1:12 pm #60482
Actually, I read somewhere that it was originally "Aunt Morgan" in the song but that he changed it to "and more again" to be less specific and avoid people thinking too much about who Aunt Morgan was.
Also, I saw Gobblehoof at UMass. Not my cup of black tea. But I met Charlie when he was doing sound at a place in NoHo called the Bay State. He was super nice and did a great job for us.March 5, 2002 at 11:05 pm #60483
Hammy, I think that show that you are refering to was Gobblehoof opening for Dino at the Student Union Ballroom at UMass. I think that would have been the "Green Mind" tour, probably in late ’91 or early ’92. I recall that being a bad night for everyone. I don’t think that the ‘Hoof played well, and I know that Dino wasn’t very good that night either. (J still refers to that show as being one of his worst ever.) J, Mike and Murph had literally flown in from England that day, and went straight to the show, no dinner, sleep, shower or anything. I remember seeing those boys and saying to J, "God, you guys look like shit!" I think his reply was something like, "I feel like shit!" Also, anyone will tell you that playing college shows really sucks in general. The only upside is that they usually pay really well. I mean, they don’t let you drink ANY alcohol, and there’s no smoking, tobacco or other. I guess what I’m trying to say is that, as for the Gobblehoof experience, I don’t think that particular show captured the true essence of the ‘Hoof. <img> <img>March 7, 2002 at 8:50 pm #60484
George-yeah that was the show. The sound was really horrible (if I remember correctly). I think that was the biggest shame of the night. Wasn’t there a film or two showing on stage, too? Some midgets and goblets of blood? Saw the ‘Hoof one or two other times as well. Was also at UConn to see Gobblehoof and there was a power outage and nobody played.
Worst Dino show I saw was at the Ritz w/Big Dipper and B.A.L.L. Lou just kept blasting this sampled stuff that was so irritating, and loud. Nobody on stage looked like they were enjoying themselves. I did end up buying a boot of it a few years later. It was the first out of state show my girlfriend and I went to.
As for Charlie, he was the nicest sound person I ever dealt with. And he did a good job. I could actually hear the monitors!
I also had the pleasure of meeting you once. It was in the men’s room at the Bay State. I was wearing an Alaska t-shirt and you said you’d never been there or Florida. I think J was playing bass for someone. The place was packed. Been to Alaska yet? <img>March 8, 2002 at 10:00 pm #60485
Wow, that UCONN non-show was a trip. There’s more to that story than I can go into here, but that power outage was typical of the dark cloud that plagued Gobblehoof. If I remember correctly, there was a big-time UCONN vs. Georgetown hoops game going on right across the street that got shut down as well. As for that meeting at the Bay State, you’re really blowing the dust off my dome. I have a vauge recollection of that. J had just returned from a trip to Alaska. It was actually Alaska and Hawaii that I had never (and still haven’t) been to. I think that we were doing a ‘Hoof alumni show that evening. I think that it was Charlie on vox, Kurt Fedora on guitar, J on bass, and me on drums. But then again, we’ve all played that joint so many times that it’s hard to distinguish what happened when and with whom. Sadly, the Bay State closed recently. Fortunately, I was able to play there one last time with New Radiant Storm King, in the final week of its existence. Even though it was a modest venue, the Bay State will be sorely missed by the Western Mass. music community, and beyond. <img> <img> <img> <img> <img>
<small>[ 03-08-2002, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: johnbonhamisgod ]</small>March 8, 2002 at 10:35 pm #60486
By the way, that additional Gobblehoof, Deep Wound, etc. info can be found under the topic, "need some help from you guys…" It’s in the Dinosaur Jr 101 area.
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