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    AGAP
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    Article on the reunion tour, some creepy toy action :lol: , odd bit in the middle though, kinda gets lost… :?

    Metroactive.com

    Together Again
    Patching it up and hitting the road

    By Sara Bir

    Breaking up is hard to do. Reuniting, apparently, is easy. Recently, the three original members of Dinosaur Jr.–J Mascis, Lou Barlow and Murph–announced their plans to tour this summer in support of the re-release of the band’s first three albums.

    This is big news, in a way. A big chunk of early Dinosaur Jr.’s youthfully uneven genius was the hate/love creative dynamic between Lou, Murph and J. There’s the classic story, for example, about the band going on tour in 1987, and J catching Lou in the van sucking on the eyeball of his new Cookie Monster doll. That’s only mildly creepy, but incidents like that–little things, tensions piling up–are the stuff that band breakup legends are made of.

    Fans relish these stories and weave them into a fetishistic mythology where a defunct but once-promising band’s untimely implosion only adds to the greatness of the works they created, as if it’s nobler to plummet dramatically off a cliff than to soldier on into mediocrity. One special thing about loving Dinosaur Jr. was knowing that the original trio were gone forever, like an ancient civilization who left naught but a trail of wild stories and a few relics of vinyl.

    Until now. You know you’re an aging hipster when your favorite long-obliterated bands reunite. The air has been dripping with reunion fertility the past several years. Most notably, the Pixies made enough peace with their mutual disgust with each other to tour the whole dang world, a feat they’ll be repeating this summer. Mission of Burma, Gang of Four, the Sex Pistols, Tears for Fears, Slint, Mötley Cruë and even Sen. John Kerry’s old band the Electras (sans John Kerry) have all gone to band therapy and emerged whole once more, ready to placate devoted fans and revisit the cigarette- and booze-tainted days of yore.

    The triumphant return of a band is a complex thing. It takes time–years, even– to adjust when a band breaks up, so there’s a flood of confused emotions (shock, denial, anger, acceptance, joy) to navigate if they reunite. Part of this has to do with divining the band’s intentions, which might variously be any or all of the following: (1) they really miss performing with each other; (2) it’s all to make the fans happy; (3) baby wants a new Jaguar; (4) plans for a supergroup with Scott Weiland, P-Diddy and Rob Halford fell through.

    Just as bands break up for many reasons, there are many reasons for them to get back together–some pure, some not. Try to put it in a romantic context. Say you once had a stormy relationship with someone really hot, and the sex was great but everything else sucked. Now think of running into that person years after feelings have mellowed, and you can’t help but connect again on that one functioning level (pure animal lust!) just for old time’s sake. Perhaps creative onstage chemistry between formerly chummy musicians can flare up in the same manner; after years pass, experiencing that sensation again proves to be too much to resist.

    We all probably have positive defining moments of our lives, glimmers of exceptionality in a formless string of days. Most of us experience this in our own microcosms, virtually anonymous to the rest of humanity, and yet we still spend our lives reaching to recapture slivers of that completeness. Think of Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite hurling his football into those golden, vacant Idaho hills.

    Imagine, then, belonging to a beloved band and living out those defining moments in front of thousands of adoring fans. Albums and songs and snippets of footage exist as artifacts, complete and eternally unchanging, but people continue to grow. They lose their hair and thicken in once-svelte regions and have kids and pay mortgages, and the crystalline lilt of green voices grows a patina of world-weariness. But throughout life, artists remain artists. No one turns a skeptical eye on civil engineers or electricians or manicurists who come out of retirement. Then again, civil engineers and electricians and manicurists are generally not mouthpieces articulating the collective feelings of their generation. Being a musician is a tough job.

    Even dinky bands reunite. They have no promise of roaring stadiums or fat ticket fees, no exorbitantly priced comeback-tour T-shirts or profiles in Blender or Spin. Someone, outside of a scattered handful of fans, cares–and that’s the band themselves. I still haven’t decided if I’ll see Dinosaur Jr. yet. I’m excited but conflicted. There’s something consoling in the thought that older, wiser, less up-tight versions of J, Lou and Murph are into sharing a stage again, breathing vital life into cherished nostalgia.

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    andyfest
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    "Coma Girl" wrote:
    There’s the classic story, for example, about the band going on tour in 1987, and J catching Lou in the van sucking on the eyeball of his new Cookie Monster doll.

    Whoa?! I’ve never heard this story before. Hilarious. I hope Lou sucks on Cookie Monsters eye during one of the shows I’m attending… :D

    #109300

    kracked873
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    haha that story’s from "our band could be your life" the book there

    #109301

    andyfest
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    "kracked873" wrote:
    haha that story’s from "our band could be your life" the book there

    Cool, the book I’m reading now. I haven’t gotten to Dion’s chapter since I’m trying to read it in order. It’s killing me though, I may have to read their chapter out of order.

    #109302

    fata morgana
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    I like this article… :D Why bother interviewing anyone when prototypical answers would be, "yeah…", "sure…" and "he hated me…" 8)

    #109303

    lookitssam
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    "andyfest" wrote:
    Cool, the book I’m reading now. I haven’t gotten to Dion’s chapter since I’m trying to read it in order. It’s killing me though, I may have to read their chapter out of order.

    I read theirs first too. Then Sonic Youth then Black Flag….then I got bored.

    #109304

    kracked873
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    MINUTEMEN!@

    #109305

    andyfest
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    "kracked873" wrote:
    MINUTEMEN!@

    I’m through Black Flag, Minutemen and Misson of Burma and thought all of the stories were fascinating. It makes me want to go out and buy all of their albums.

    #109306

    kracked873
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    I saw mission of burma open for the pixies twice in November and they were kick ass. Love black flag too.

    Minutemen though if youre not into them, you must get into them. Buy double nickels on the dime and listen to it over and over, once you love it, buy everything. Definetely tied with dinosaur jr. for my favorite band ever.

    #109307

    andyfest
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    "kracked873" wrote:
    I saw mission of burma open for the pixies twice in November and they were kick ass. Love black flag too.

    Minutemen though if youre not into them, you must get into them. Buy double nickels on the dime and listen to it over and over, once you love it, buy everything. Definetely tied with dinosaur jr. for my favorite band ever.

    I borrowed a Minutemen CD from the library when I was in high school or something. I remember I just didn’t get them at the time, all the short songs and whatever. I think I’d like them now though.

    #109308

    lookitssam
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    "kracked873" wrote:
    I saw mission of burma open for the pixies twice in November and they were kick ass. Love black flag too.

    Minutemen though if youre not into them, you must get into them. Buy double nickels on the dime and listen to it over and over, once you love it, buy everything. Definetely tied with dinosaur jr. for my favorite band ever.

    People have said that to me before, that album is next on my ‘to somehow obtain’ list.

    #109309

    GregPolard
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    I love the Minor Threat chapter in "Our Band Could Be Your Life"

    being in a band, reading the Minutemen’s chapter was inspiring as well.

    I laughed out loud when I read J’s story of the Cookie Monster doll too.

    #109310

    stanner
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    "kracked873" wrote:
    MINUTEMEN!@

    concur :wink:
    saw this great band back in the 80s(70s?) the mind b0gles! here in sanfransiskee @ the stone and they blew everybody away…
    my favorite WATT story about MINUTEMEN (i think its in that book) was: they showed up to play a gig-set up their stuff for soundcheck and started playin…the bar manager comes over and asks’you guys sound like that?’
    and they said ‘yeah’ and he said ‘pack it up-you aint playin here’!
    rock&roll man-i love it
    s 8)

    #109311

    Jayne
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    "andyfest" wrote:
    Cool, the book I’m reading now. I haven’t gotten to Dion’s chapter since I’m trying to read it in order. It’s killing me though, I may have to read their chapter out of order.

    Yeah, I gave up on that. I am going out of order. I went to Dinosaur Jr first and then to Minutemen and then to Black Flag. (I’ve been trying to read it for awhile now but keep jumping from book to book.)

    Speaking of, has anyone seen "We Jam Econo" yet? I tried to go see it the other night here at the 40 Watt, but moving into a new place has proved to be a big pain in the ass and spare time (outside of work..haha) has been a thing of the past.

    #109312

    andyfest
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    "Jayne" wrote:
    Speaking of, has anyone seen "We Jam Econo" yet? I tried to go see it the other night here at the 40 Watt, but moving into a new place has proved to be a big pain in the ass and spare time (outside of work..haha) has been a thing of the past.

    I wish I lived in a city cool enough to have this playing somewhere. I’ll probably have to wait for DVD and even then it’s a stretch to think any place around me will carry it.

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