July 25, 2001 at 8:18 pm #44561
List what you consider the 10 most influential bands and why you think they belong on the list, if you want. And make it bands that influenced rock – don’t put N’Sync and say the influenced teeniepop. [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]
Here’s mine (in no order):
1. Velvet Underground
2. Led Zeppelin
3. The Beatles
4. Black Sabbath
6. Rage Against The Machine
7. Nine Inch Nails
8. The Who
9. Metallica – hate them, but include them anyway
10. Depeche Mode
<FONT>[ July 25, 2001 06:18 PM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by ELJ ]</font>July 26, 2001 at 6:34 am #64162
Here are mine ( in no order )
1) Ramones, for obvious reasons I think
2) Sonic Youth – 20 years, my ears my ears; do I need to say more and well, look at all the bands who supported them over the years.
3) Pixies, in a way that Kurt said that with Nevermind he basically tried to copy Surfer Rosa. Still the blueprint for the indie scene.
4 Velvet Underground, yesssssss and in their wake the Jesus and Marycahin
5 the Smiths, well IÂ´m not a big fan but there are certainly a lot of bands in Britain who want to be the new Smiths
6 Stooges. I think the whole Scandinavian RockÂ´nÂ´Roll scene would be unthinkable without the Stooges
7 Talulah Gosh, They invented Indie Pop in 86
8 my bloody Valentine,- now this would take too long to explain, but there would be no Stereolab without my bloody Valentine
9 Blondie- Blueprint for perfect pop and finally
10 the Doors, the blueprint for your common band of wankers. Now the doors are probably the most overrated band of all and if good old Jim hadnÂ´t snuffed it in the seventies they would be completely irrelevant by now, yet that doesnÂ´t stop sad acts like the Cult trying to copy them.
Yes IÂ´m very tolerant and you can love what you like but the Cult are beyond redemption.
Oh yeah, and I should add, that this is a very personal list. Of course I know that the Fall, Joy division, Kraftwerk and the Birthday Party were more influential than Talulah Gosh, but they are so obvious choises. And I blame much of the Crossover bullshit on Faith no More, but this is an influence I could well do without. I only threw in the Doors for good measure .
<FONT>[ July 26, 2001 09:58 AM: Message mutated 3 times, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>July 26, 2001 at 7:33 am #64163
Dimpfelmoser like yr choices.
I would also say…
1. Slint (see Codeine, Tortoise, Mogwai, Rodan amongst many others).
2. Television (punk rock could be played by musos)
3. Velvet Underground
4. Half Japanese invented lo-fi
5. Neu and Can et al invented Stereolab – not MBV – though MBV would be in my list too.
6. Beefheart said you could play what you like, and the Minutemen took that ethic on board.
7. Minutemen are truly an inspiration.
8. The debt to Minor Threat must not be underestimated.
10. Neil Young
11. Creedence Clearwater Revival
12. Leonard Cohen invented miserable Indie.
13. Pavement were more influential than successful.
shit I could go on forever.July 26, 2001 at 9:22 am #64164
Yeah, let me explain. Early Stereolab where a bit more like mbv, but the main thing is, that years ago (two years after Loveless) I came across the first album of Rocketship in the recordshop of my choice. No one had heard of rocketship (and I donÂ´t think theyÂ´ve ever made it big time) and in order to encourage you to buy it the dealer had writen a little tag and attached it to the record and it said: "Very good, like Boo Radleys and Stereolab", when in fact it was exactly like my bloody valentine (ecstacy period) and I thought it was interesting that my bloody valentine were obviously completely forgotten, while the bands that were influenced by them cited as referencepoints.
I like your list eggwater, after all, there would be no Fall without Beefheart.
dJuly 26, 2001 at 10:14 am #64165
1. – 10. KISSJuly 26, 2001 at 10:46 am #64166
Talulah Gosh are not too well known in north america,I know one of their tunes and I know they eventually became Heavenly.Their influence on twee pop/cuddlecore bands is quite great.The Talulah song I know is the one with the lyric"some of my best friends are bastards like you"what`s the name of that tune dimpfelmoser?
Slint`s influence on 90`s indie rock is great,alot of bands picked up on Slint`s sound,which was a reinterpretation of Sonic Youth and Big Black.
No one mentioned the Cocteau Twins?they pretty much invented the shoegazer stuff,bands like MBV added a more noisy approach than the Cocteaus,mixing SY and JAMC in there as well.
The MC5 and Stooges influence is wide to alot of bands,and VU deffinitely was also.
Alot of good bands mentioned there.July 26, 2001 at 11:21 am #64167
Great list Jebus, gotta love that
Mine goes something like this…
Stooges…don’t really think an explanation is needed
Ramones…how many garage bands started up after hearing the Ramones…my guess is to high for me to figure out the spelling… [img]images/smiles/converted/dizzy.gif[/img]
New York Dolls…mutated into The Heartbreakers…huge influence on early punk in London. Great guitar sounds definitely, Personality Crisis by the Dolls…nothing like it!!Jerry Nolan was a wicked drummer, gotta love a guy who had hot pink drums!!!
Damned…first punk band in London to release single/album and 1st to tour the US. Their 1st album Damned Damned Damned is a classic in every sense of the word…and yes D I mean every single song [img]images/smiles/converted/eek.gif[/img]
MC5…Broke a lot of ground in Detroit…and many laws [img]images/smiles/converted/wink.gif[/img] Wayne Kramer and Sonic Smith on guitar…influenced many of my modern day guitar heroes
Husker Du…One of my personal favs…obviously [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img]
Dinosaur JR…no explanation needed
The rest of the list goes like this….JAMC, Flaming Lips, The Fall, Sonic YOuth….etc etc etc
Allison [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]July 26, 2001 at 11:26 am #64168
can you hum along to it, being German IÂ´m really bad spotting songs from snipets of lyrics.
It might be "break your face" but IÂ´m not too sure.
Heavenly eventually became Marine Research after Mathew Fletcher (drums) the brother of Amelia (singing/songs/guitar) commited suicide. However, they never ever reached the velocity of Talulah Gosh again.
dJuly 26, 2001 at 11:33 am #64169
Talulah Gosh – avoid
love that "cuddlecore" fucking wicked – word of the day without a doubt.
I never saw the Sonic Youth influence in Slint…maybe the use of harmonics…Big Black though yeah definitely…though Mr. Albini’d be embarrased to say so…considering his love for Slint…Big Black are fairly influential…as are Shellac…the use of repetition should not be underestimated.
Meat Puppets were a big influence on Dinosaur.July 26, 2001 at 11:56 am #64170
Actually, we call it Wimpcore!
dJuly 26, 2001 at 12:22 pm #64171
The cuddlecore name from what I understand came from a Vancouver musician in reference to Vancouver band Cub.The singer/bassist in Cub is married to the bassist from the Muffs.
Cub split years ago,they were in a Beathappening/K records mold,later stuff was a little more punky.
When Cub toured california someone there mentioned that cuddlecore was a term that was going around there.July 28, 2001 at 10:15 pm #64172
1. Neu (influenced Bowie, Sonic Youth, invented punk on their Neu ’75 album, now they are a big influence on bands like Tortoise)
2. Ramones (prototype punk)
3. Minutemen (inventors of punk-funk-jazz)
4. Neil Young (prototype grunge)
5. Leonard Cohen (a very big infuence on my own humble person…)
6. Husker Du (raw power and great songs)
7. the Gun Club (dark Americana)
8. Lee Perry (invented a complete new form of freaked out dub-reggae)
9. James Brown (well, he’s probably the most-sampled guy in history, so he’s infuential!)
10. Captain Beefheart (well he influenced everyone from Zappa via PIL to Tortoise…)July 28, 2001 at 10:25 pm #64173
Hey den buck,
Great list, definitely a good call with James Brown and Captain Beefheart!!!
Welcome to the boards [img]images/smiles/converted/biggrin.gif[/img]
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