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Hey D,

Interesting that you brought this up…I have a couple observations/theories for you to mull over.

I was lucky enough to see Dinosaur Jr once, shortly before they disbanded, and I went home with lots of bruises. Last month, I saw the Fog twice and the vibe was much more mellow. The first night had a lot of people dancing around & such, really getting into it; the second night I was surrounded by a bunch of bleach-blond hipster boys smoking weed & talking shit about, like, "I know EVERYthing about this band, dude".

I am living in a major city for the first time, and I have noticed this strange thing that happens when I discuss concerts with the locals– often times I am asked, "So are you a such-and-such fan, or do you just go to shows?" It strikes me as odd because I never considered that people would be wealthy and/or ambivalent enough to see lots of bands that they don’t really care about, just for the sake of "going to a show".

So I have two theories. The first kind of goes along with what you suggested, about big cities being "overfed" with gigs. Apparently these shows will draw a large contingent of the mildly-interested and the plainly ambivalent; maybe people who are just bored or curious or going for drugs or whatever.

The second theory is that the people who went to Dino shows just to thrash have drifted away, leaving only us hardcore, slightly socially stunted fans who go to enjoy the music. I’m not against rowdy crowds or anything, I just think that maybe the early-90s trend of thrashing away has died down a bit.

Overall, I think that every show you go to will have a different chemistry, which is kind of cool. I wouldn’t necessarily write off peaceful fans as "apathetic", though I agree that there can be some lame-o’s in the crowd who are screwing us hardworking, dedicated fans out of tickets! [img]http://www.freakscene.net/ubb/smilies/evil.gif[/img]

So, buy your tickets early & just enjoy the music! And listen, all hip-hop fans are not the enemy. I do appreciate you calling us funloving, though. [img]http://www.freakscene.net/ubb/smilies/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

<FONT>[Edited 1 time by rosa on December 07, 2000 at 04:58 AM]</font>