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also overrated:

If you like em Jaron,as well as Pumpkins and Radiohead,that`s ok;I`m critical of big alt-rock acts,that`s just me.
If you like NIN`s mega angst,try listening to Big Black or The Swans,they`re not as cheesy as Reznor.
Glad to hear your checking out Modest Mouse and Man Or Astroman,alot of people who listen to popular alt bands would`nt even bother trying to listen to indie bands,so you get cool points from me.