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Mattman
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</font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><table><tr><td><table><tr><td>Originally posted by Jaron:
<strong>1. I find your analogy to be stupid. Try morphine. Sure, some people need it for medicinal purposes (just as some bands need it to get their music heard) but I don’t think legalization is a great idea.</strong></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></blockquote>I find your analogy dubious as well. I shall hardly lower myself to calling it "stupid", because I do not believe your, nor my examples are as such. Though they may vary in there degrees of correctness.

Anyway, the reason I find your analogy to be incorrect, I’m sure there are people out there somewhere who feel it (along with other drugs)should be legalized as well. Be they in the minority or the majority, it does not negate their opinion, nor does it make it "stupid". Honestly, I’m not a %100 sure I disagree with them, but that’s neither here nor there…

Now, do you care to give me a reason why you found my analogy to be "stupid", or shall I assume your post to be little better than mere name calling?

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2. You are not addressing the central issue. My point is, you’re acting like you have some God given right to do this stuff, when in actuality you don’t. You act like the fact that YOU proclaim the way the music industry works is an outdated model to be important. It’s not.

The local Pizza Hut by my house demands all people to have no sideburns (for real). Is this outdated? Sure. But buisness owners have every right to run their buisness as they desire. Likewise, music labels have entire say about how the artists they represent musics should get released. Don’t like it? Tough, you have no financial investment in anything.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></blockquote>If anyone’s deviating from the central issue, it’d appear to be you. I thought it to be clear, but for the sake of anyone who misunderstands, I am in oposition to this bill because it gives the media an unfair advantage over both the consumer, and the technology sector. If the media and tech sectors got together on their own and devised some sort of digital rights management, I’d have a lot less problem with it, because I’d have the option, as a consumer, to take my business elsewhere. This bill, however, seeks to lock in these restraints to ANY technology capable of playing and/or recording audio/video so that there no longer is a choice. It is my belief that this is bad government, and that it stipends invovation.

Believe it or not, I’m not against copyright laws, at least not in their original purpose, as I understand them. From what I have been lead to believe, copyright laws were intended to create a balance between the sharing of information, as consumers, vs the promotion of inovation, so that the creators of the ideas could profit off their work. Copyrights were originally intended to expire after a certain amount of time, but due to what I consider to be other examples of bad government, this concept as been distorted by those who saw a way to squeeze an extra buck out of th econsumers by keeping an iron grip on the copyrighted material.

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The number of bands who have their music "heard" because of MP3s are about 1/100,000th as many as bands who are heard because a label puts out a record. If a band MP3s it’s own album, it’s still 100% the result of the label that the music got heard

The only artists who have music released on MP3 only without label help are people recording stuff in their own garage.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></blockquote>Again, you spout off these numbers, with no evidence to back them up. I cannot take this argument seriously if I don’t believe it to be true.

</font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><table><tr><td><table><tr><td>Now, extrapolate this for a second. If this is how music is going to be run, we have a sad state of affairs in 20 years. We are going to miss out on so much if already financially strapped music lines are further depreciated sales-wise by MP3 stealing.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></blockquote>Again, this is off topic. I created this thread to oppose a specific bill that I feel to be bad government. If you want to discuss the validity of a particular industry’s ligitimacy, which should be obvious that I have quite a strong opinion, feel free to start your own thread on the subject. As it is, I’d like to get this thread back on track, and that is (il)legitimacy of the the CBDTPA. If you’d like to further debate that, I welcome it, but try to keep this discussion on topic from now on. That goes for me and everyone else as well…

<small>[ 03-25-2002, 11:19 PM: Message edited by: Mattman ]</small>