Jasper I have listened to the music, it did not do it for me in any way…..just my opinion but it counts. When I saw them they played really crappy and the whining was done by lb before and after every song, it was very annoying!!!!! I disagree with your contention that most pop songs are people whining, that is expression of emotion in my opinion. I agree hagers characterization of lf as a psycho is over the top. You had to be aware when you started this topic that there would be a lot of opinions, gossip and different interpretations of situations.

Take care and relax,